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From: D. J. Bernstein (djbcr.yp.to)
Date: Wed Sep 05 2001 - 11:05:27 CDT

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    Tobias Weingartner writes:
    > Please read your own license, and then read the goals for the
    > ports/OpenBSD system. Do you agree they are in conflict?

    Netscape 4, which doesn't even have public source code, has been in the
    OpenBSD ports for years. So the religious argument doesn't hold water.

    The real issue is that the OpenBSD distributors insist on moving
    daemontools out of /package, while I insist that they not do so.

    I've provided ample justification for my position. My web pages contain
    extensive documentation of problems for users and detailed explanations
    of how /package solves those problems.

    The OpenBSD response has been circular: ``It doesn't fit because it
    isn't mentioned in hier. It isn't mentioned in hier because we don't
    allow it. We don't allow it because it doesn't fit.''

    When I ask how the OpenBSD position helps users, system administrators,
    programmers, etc., I get (1) more of the circular responses, (2) more of
    the hypocritical religious nonsense, (3) idiotic comments on the level
    of ``following a symlink takes CPU time, yick,'' and (4) a bunch of
    anonymous phone calls and forged mailing-list subscriptions.

    I don't care what actually goes into OpenBSD. It's a fringe operating
    system with bad hardware support; it's a barely noticeable part of my
    user base. I don't trust OpenBSD's security claims after the latest
    ``audited'' sendmail security hole, so I won't be installing any new
    versions on my machines. My goal in this discussion was simply to find
    out whether OpenBSD's decisions were based on rational evaluations of
    user needs. Evidently they were not.

    ---Dan