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From: Pedro (pedrojazznet.pt)
Date: Wed Sep 05 2001 - 12:29:30 CDT

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    "D. J. Bernstein" wrote:

    > Tobias Weingartner writes:
    > > Please read your own license, and then read the goals for the
    > > ports/OpenBSD system. Do you agree they are in conflict?
    >
    > Netscape 4, which doesn't even have public source code, has been in the
    > OpenBSD ports for years. So the religious argument doesn't hold water.
    >
    > The real issue is that the OpenBSD distributors insist on moving
    > daemontools out of /package, while I insist that they not do so.
    >
    > I've provided ample justification for my position. My web pages contain
    > extensive documentation of problems for users and detailed explanations
    > of how /package solves those problems.
    >
    > The OpenBSD response has been circular: ``It doesn't fit because it
    > isn't mentioned in hier. It isn't mentioned in hier because we don't
    > allow it. We don't allow it because it doesn't fit.''
    >
    > When I ask how the OpenBSD position helps users, system administrators,
    > programmers, etc., I get (1) more of the circular responses, (2) more of
    > the hypocritical religious nonsense, (3) idiotic comments on the level
    > of ``following a symlink takes CPU time, yick,'' and (4) a bunch of
    > anonymous phone calls and forged mailing-list subscriptions.
    >
    > I don't care what actually goes into OpenBSD. It's a fringe operating
    > system with bad hardware support; it's a barely noticeable part of my
    > user base. I don't trust OpenBSD's security claims after the latest
    > ``audited'' sendmail security hole, so I won't be installing any new
    > versions on my machines. My goal in this discussion was simply to find
    > out whether OpenBSD's decisions were based on rational evaluations of
    > user needs. Evidently they were not.
    >
    > ---Dan

    This is really odd..
    If you really think that OpenBSD is so bad , as you claim , why are you
    wasting your time with this "Fringe Operating system with bad hardware
    support "?
    Get real...

    Best Regards
    Pedro