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Re: Patent jeopardizes IETF syslog standard
From: J.C. Roberts (unknown
abac.com)
Date: Sun Jul 02 2006 - 23:17:51 CDT
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On Sun, 2 Jul 2006 15:52:57 -0400, "Nick Guenther" <kousue
gmail.com>
wrote:
>On 7/1/06, J.C. Roberts <unknown
abac.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 12:54:14 +0300, "Alexey E. Suslikov"
>> <cruel
texnika.com.ua> wrote:
>>
>> >Patent jeopardizes IETF syslog standard. Read here
>> >http://trends.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=06/06/28/2320232
>>
>> This sucks. It's no different than what Cisco did with their HSRP patent
>> to try to kill off VRRP. The Huawei IPR claim to the IETF is nearly
>> identical to the crap Cisco put out years ago in their IPR claim.
>>
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/ipr_detail_show.cgi?ipr_id=724
>>
>> The end result is we have CARP, a patent busting implementation that is
>> far better than either of the originals...
>>
>> Will they never learn?
>>
>> Anyone in the mood for "slog" ?
>
>Isn't syslog just like... send random data on port 514 to whoever and
>they record it? How can you possibly patent that? That would be like
>patenting talking.
>
>-Nick
Basically you are correct about *current* syslog implementations. The
two goals of the syslog standard work being done are (1) defining a
message format and (2) providing a "secure" transport of said messages.
In short, secure inter-operability of syslog across various systems.
No one knows what's in the "sealed" patent application at the moment
since it has not been publicly released but considering the guys
claiming the patent have been involved in the syslog standards process,
you can reasonably certain some degree of dishonesty and corruption are
involved.
JCR
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