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From: Mayers, Philip J (p.mayersic.ac.uk)
Date: Tue Feb 13 2001 - 11:56:01 CST

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    I believe this change appeared in 0.74:

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    So, there is a bigger issue here - it should be possible for libpam
    to work out whether the application or the modules are calling a
    libpam function. This part I agree with and am going to implement.

    The other part, with respect to non-authentication functions getting
    access to the AUTHTOK items, and I think I disagree with this.

    Having AUTHTOK items in memory for an arbitrary amount of time
    is generally a bad thing - has no defined behavior in the face of
    an arbitrarily stacked set of modules and one that libpam should
    default to not supporting.

    I believe, as is currently supported by various modules, that
    if a module requires that an authtoken is available subsequent to
    the final return from pam_authenticate() then it should use a data
    item to store the AUTHTOK it cares about - this is basically the
    only way it can guaratee it knows what its doing.

    ==================

    So, back to my original query:

    What's wrong with code like this:

    pam_set_item(pamh,PAM_AUTHTOK, 'passw0rD');
    pam_authenticate();

    It doesn't work in Pam 0.74 because of sanitisation. I'm only interested in
    *one* application for this, and that's non-interactive programs which have a
    username and password combination (think webservers and mail relays).
    Clearly you'll sanitise the AUTHTOK on the way out. But on the way *in*?! I
    know exactly what the reply is - "Binary prompts". But I don't want to use
    that. I want something simple that works, which this does. try_first_pass
    will still work. use_first_pass is an administrator choice.

    <sigh>:o)

    This is never going to happen, is it?

    Regards,
    Phil

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    | Imperial College |
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