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php-general Digest 16 Mar 2001 02:00:40 -0000 Issue 569
Topics (messages 44027 through 44194):
Re: Executing a string with both html and php inside it..
44027 by: Mark Roedel
44038 by: Aviv Revach
44048 by: Christian Reiniger
Re: Function to compare an array with another array
44028 by: Stewart Taylor
44031 by: Tim Ward
Re: Dynamic Arrays?
44029 by: John Guynn
44030 by: Mark Roedel
mail() function how???
44032 by: Nilesh Parmar
44035 by: Knotek Vlastimil
mail() implementation problem
44033 by: Mathieu Arnold
44107 by: Mathieu Arnold
44191 by: Manuel Lemos
List of Directories with in a Directory
44034 by: Tim Livers
44050 by: Christian Reiniger
(rac)MCAL, doubt, again
44036 by: Celestino Roberto Alejandro
Re: Will my script run after redirect?
44037 by: Johnson, Kirk
Re: SOS !
44039 by: Julien (support pagespersos Free)
Re: Statistics function
44040 by: chris.improbable.org
Re: URL / address
44041 by: Aviv Revach
separate php.ini files
44042 by: Kevin Porter
44043 by: Johnson, Kirk
44044 by: Mark Roedel
forms and databases usinh PHP
44045 by: Don
44049 by: Jack Dempsey
44062 by: Michael Kimsal
44075 by: Don
gmmktime() woes
44046 by: David G.
Problem with ereg*_replace and backreference
44047 by: Alain FORCIOLI
Re: How upload files to protected directories?
44051 by: Keith Vance
44139 by: Mig
newbie problem: Hit counter.
44052 by: Richard Banks
44059 by: Boaz Yahav
Re: POST Method.
44053 by: Keith Vance
44055 by: Nick Davies
Re: that whole system() thing again
44054 by: Dennis Gearon
Search Engines?
44056 by: Wee Chua
POST conversion.
44057 by: Nick Davies
44071 by: Stewart Taylor
44073 by: Chris Lee
RE:Dynamic Arrays?
44058 by: Dennis Gearon
Chat with PHP and MySQL - come and chat about Linux problems...
44060 by: Marian Vasile
php editors
44061 by: McShen
44065 by: Keith Vance
44175 by: David Robley
FAQ
44063 by: Rick St Jean
44068 by: RBL
44070 by: RBL
44072 by: Mal McKay
44074 by: Mal McKay
44076 by: Rick St Jean
44091 by: Chris Lee
44093 by: Rick St Jean
44095 by: Christopher Allen
44117 by: eschmid+sic.s.netic.de
44177 by: David Robley
44178 by: Keith Vance
44179 by: Tobias Talltorp
44182 by: Jason Lotito
44194 by: Michael Talbot-Wilson
File system or MySQL ?
44064 by: Marian Vasile
44069 by: Chris Lee
Php C source code
44066 by: rui.websolut.net
Re: [PHP-DB] validating checkboxes
44067 by: Stewart Taylor
String parsing problem
44077 by: Justin Smith
Help w/Cookie Problem
44078 by: Jack Sasportas
44079 by: Jack Dempsey
Re: Finding the depth
44080 by: Chris Lee
3 situations - PHP Power or... servlet(JSP) power ?
44081 by: Marian Vasile
44090 by: Chris Lee
44097 by: Pierre-Yves Lemaire
44100 by: Mark Maggelet
44102 by: Marian Vasile
44109 by: Michael Kimsal
44110 by: Mark Maggelet
Re: newbie php authentication quest.
44082 by: Chris Lee
Re: Own User authentification
44083 by: Chris Lee
Re: Creating Files Windows vs Unix
44084 by: Andrew V. Romero
Re: External file?
44085 by: Chris Lee
One some problem with uploading
44086 by: Al
Re: Not Looping...
44087 by: Chris Lee
Variable value doesn't stay "Null"
44088 by: Michael Conley
44089 by: Chris Lee
44111 by: Michael Conley
44115 by: Johnson, Kirk
44120 by: Michael Conley
44124 by: Web master
44144 by: NHans
RE:function() for mysql-enum-field-values-to-array
44092 by: Dennis Gearon
Windows 2000, PHP, mySQL: multiple users and security
44094 by: Alain Fontaine
Paging a Recordset
44096 by: James Crowley
44113 by: Web master
44190 by: Manuel Lemos
Newbie question: Basic knowledge
44098 by: Virtual Evil
44099 by: Rick St Jean
44108 by: Virtual Evil
44119 by: Phillip Bow
44127 by: Virtual Evil
44128 by: Virtual Evil
44133 by: eschmid+sic.s.netic.de
44134 by: Virtual Evil
44138 by: eschmid+sic.s.netic.de
44143 by: Lars Falsig
Perl Libraries and PHP
44101 by: Matthew Hanna
Help needed - search problem
44103 by: Fang Li
44105 by: Boget, Chris
Variable problems and strings PHP3
44104 by: rm
Passing Multilayered Objects, by Reference, to Independent Sub-Objects
44106 by: Andrew Immerman
44114 by: Andrew Immerman
Stripping Single Quotes
44112 by: Elan
44121 by: CC Zona
44126 by: Web master
Help! Can't redeclare already declared function in
44116 by: Jack Sasportas
44118 by: Johnson, Kirk
44123 by: Web master
44150 by: ..s.c.o.t.t.. [gts]
44153 by: Keith Vance
Error working
44122 by: Celestino Roberto Alejandro
44148 by: ..s.c.o.t.t.. [gts]
Reminders
44125 by: Dale Frohman
44129 by: Mark Maggelet
error_log creates duplicate entries
44130 by: Marcel Levy
Re: FAQ Ignor if you are tired of this.
44131 by: Rick St Jean
44135 by: Lars Falsig
passing variables from one form to another
44132 by: Don
44147 by: ..s.c.o.t.t.. [gts]
MSSQL 2000 in PHP4... Is this possible?
44136 by: Brandon Orther
fopen to validate a URL
44137 by: Kenneth R Zink II
44140 by: Kenneth R Zink II
44141 by: ..s.c.o.t.t.. [gts]
Re: need some help..
44142 by: Andreas D. Landmark
44145 by: ..s.c.o.t.t.. [gts]
PostToHost
44146 by: Boget, Chris
44181 by: Tobias Talltorp
Re: How do you keep your scripts secure?
44149 by: Richard Lynch
44154 by: ..s.c.o.t.t.. [gts]
44157 by: Keith Vance
44161 by: Murph
44163 by: Jack Dempsey
44165 by: Johnson, Kirk
44166 by: Murph
44167 by: Murph
44168 by: Keith Vance
44169 by: Jack Dempsey
Interactive Shells
44151 by: Clayton Dukes
44155 by: ..s.c.o.t.t.. [gts]
Has anyone got MSSQL2000 to connect and work properlly?
44152 by: Brandon Orther
44156 by: ..s.c.o.t.t.. [gts]
I can't install PHP4
44158 by: Norberto Rojas
44159 by: Keith Vance
Executing a CGI script.
44160 by: Brandon Orther
44162 by: Jack Dempsey
44164 by: Jack Dempsey
Call to undefined function
44170 by: Clayton Dukes
44171 by: Clayton Dukes
44172 by: Jack Dempsey
44174 by: Clayton Dukes
creating array on variable variable (bug?)
44173 by: Tobias Talltorp
44176 by: Mahmoud Abu-Wardeh
44180 by: Tobias Talltorp
Extra Path Info
44183 by: Jesse Kipp
Passing JavaScript variables
44184 by: Gary
Request for input...
44185 by: Mary E Tyler
$REDIRECT_ERROR_NOTES
44186 by: Paul R. Jackson
44187 by: David Robley
44189 by: Paul R. Jackson
44192 by: David Robley
Help. creating excel file form mysql
44188 by: Javier Onate
how fast is php
44193 by: Randy Johnson
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Aviv Revach [mailto:aviv_r
brillianet.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2001 5:36 PM
> To: php-general
lists.php.net
> Subject: [PHP] Executing a string with both html and php inside it..
>
>
> What should I do in order to execute the next string:
> $str = "<html>\n"
> $str .= "blabla\n";
> $str .= " <?php echo \"hello!\"; ?>\n";
> $str .= "blabla\n";
> $str .= "</html>\n";
>
> When I tried using 'echo' with the string, but the php code
> didn't work...
>
> Is there any way of doing this without writing this string to a file
> and include'ing it? (that would be rather slow!)
If you're not going to be writing it out to a file, why wouldn't you
just
$str = "<html>\n"
$str .= "blabla\n";
$str .= " hello!\n";
$str .= "blabla\n";
$str .= "</html>\n";
Is there something i'm missing here? I'm sure this is an oversimplified
example, but what is it you're actually trying to accomplish?
--- Mark Roedel | "I know the answer! The answer lies within the Systems Programmer | heart of all mankind! The answer is twelve?!? LeTourneau University | I think I'm in the wrong building." Longview, Texas, USA | -- Peppermint Patty (Charles Schultz)
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Hey!
I would like to thank you and Mark for your quick reply.
What am I trying to accomplish is the following:
I have created an engine which separates my website's code and design. The code is stored in one file(code.txt) and the design in another(design.txt).
The engine loads up parts of each file in order to create the final result, meaning - * It prints the "<html><head>" etc.. * It prints DESIGN.TXT's head * It prints CODE.TXT's head * It prints "</head><body>" etc.. * It prints part of DESIGN.TXT's body * It prints CODE.TXT's body * It prints the second-part of the DESIGN.TXT's body * It prints "</body></html>"
That's the general idea of what the engine does, but it's doing other things as well. The engine works the way it does because I wanted to have the entire content and the entire design all in 2 separate files. Most of the engines I've seen so far, used 3 different files for the design, and included them in different places inside their content. I don't wish to do that..
Now, all worked fine until a while go, I used the 'echo' command in order to print the strings that contain content/design HTML code.
The troubles began when I added PHP code to my content - The PHP tags were IGNORED... !
Now, after I've told you all the things you should know, I ask for your assistance. What do you suggest me to do?
Thank you in advance -
Aviv Revach
At 13:26 15/03/01 +0100, Christian Reiniger wrote: >On Wednesday 14 March 2001 12:50, you wrote: > > > My string contains HTML tags with PHP code inside(in '<?php' and '?>' > > tags), not only PHP as eval() requires. > > > > Do you have any other suggestion? > >AFAIK there's no other way than using include(). > >Why do you need that anyway? > > > > > What should I do in order to execute the next string: > > > > $str = "<html>\n" > > > > $str .= "blabla\n"; > > > > $str .= " <?php echo \"hello!\"; ?>\n"; > > > > $str .= "blabla\n"; > > > > $str .= "</html>\n"; > > > > > > > > When I tried using 'echo' with the string, but the php code didn't > > > > work... > >-- >Christian Reiniger >LGDC Webmaster (http://sunsite.dk/lgdc/) > >Pretty cool, the kind of power information technology puts in our hands >these days. > >- Securityfocus on probing 36000000 hosts for known problems in 3 weeks
BRILLIANeT Website - http://www.brillianet.com/
attached mail follows:
On Wednesday 14 March 2001 16:26, you wrote: > Hey! > > I would like to thank you and Mark for your quick reply. > > What am I trying to accomplish is the following: > > I have created an engine which separates my website's code and > design. The code is stored in one file(code.txt) and the design in > another(design.txt).
[...]
> Now, after I've told you all the things you should know, I ask for your > assistance. > What do you suggest me to do?
I'd say use another approach. Separating code and design is good, but keeping each on only one file will cause more troubles that it's worth. I keep all my design in one directory, as several files, each a snippet of HTML (usually with some <?= $SomeVar ?> statements embedded):
misc_hitcounter_g.html misc_hitcounter_s.html page_footer-titel.html page_footer.html page_header-titel.html page_header.html page_toc-linkmarked.html page_toc-linkstd.html page_toc.html mail_subscribe-failure.html mail_unsubscribe-failure.html mail_subscribe-success.html mail_unsubscribe-success.html news_item-std.html
news_item-std.html for example looks like this (it's a german site):
<tr valign="top"> <td colspan="2" height="2"><img src="/images/transparent.gif" width="1" height="1"></td> </tr> <tr valign="top"> <td> <p class="bb"><?= $PTime ?></p> </td> <td> <p class="bb"><?= $Title ?></p> </td> </tr> <tr valign="top"> <?php if ($Usermode == 'maint') { ?> <td><a href='/maintain.php?what=news&id=<?= $ID ?>&action=edit' class='inbody'>Bearbeiten</a></td> <?php } else { ?> <td> </td> <?php } ?> <td><?= $Body ?></td> </tr>
Such an approach is IMHO easy to understand and handle, well-structured etc.
-- Christian Reiniger LGDC Webmaster (http://sunsite.dk/lgdc/)Pretty cool, the kind of power information technology puts in our hands these days.
- Securityfocus on probing 36000000 hosts for known problems in 3 weeks
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How about using the array_diff function instead. array_diff ($array1,$array2) = elements in $array1 not in $array2; array_diff ($array2,$array1) = elements in $array2 not in $array1;
From manual: array array_diff (array array1, array array2 [, array ...])
Array_diff() returns an array containing all the values of array1 that are not present in any of the other arguments. Note that keys are preserved.
Example 1. Array_diff() example
$array1 = array ("a" => "green", "red", "blue"); $array2 = array ("b" => "green", "yellow", "red"); $result = array_diff ($array1, $array2);
This makes $result have array ("blue");
-----Original Message-----
From: Fang Li [mailto:fli
biographix.com]
Sent: 15 March 2001 14:03
To: Tim Ward; 'Jimmy Bäckström'; PHP General List
Subject: RE: [PHP] RE: Function to compare an array with another array
Hi, I am trying to use the Function ArrayCompare, but it always has an error in "if(($key = array_search($element, $array2)) == false)", and also I couldn't get the page of http://www.stivesdirect.com/e-mail-disclaimer.html Would you please give me a clue? Thanks!
Fang
-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Ward [mailto:tim.ward
stivesdirect.com]
Sent: March 5, 2001 5:48 AM
To: 'Jimmy Bäckström'; PHP General List
Subject: [PHP] RE: Function to compare an array with another array
function ArrayCompare($array1, $array2) { $answer = new Array() foreach ($array1 as $element) { if (($key = array_search($element, $array2)) === false) { $answer[$key] = $array2[$key]; } } return $answer; }
this will return an array that is a copy of the first array with only those elements that are not in array2. If you only want the first one either just use the first one( foreach(){ ... break;}) or put a break in the if.
Tim Ward Senior Systems Engineer
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jimmy Bäckström [mailto:broder_b
chello.se]
> Sent: 05 March 2001 06:38
> To: PHP General List
> Subject: Function to compare an array with another array
>
>
> Shu!
> I need some help here.
> I have a script where I want to compare two arrays with
> eachother, and return one value from that does not exists in
> both arrays. I have an array of pictures id number created
> from a database query. I use sessions to save id numbers of
> pictures into an array. I want the first array to be compared
> to the second and return the first key/value-pair that are
> not found in the session array...
> Is there a way I can do this?
>
> Thankful for any help!
> /Broder B
>
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sorry, I've been writing javascript, and also didn't check the validity of the array_search function ... this works (and is simpler anyway)
<?php function ArrayCompare($array1, $array2) { $answer = Array(); // sorry about the js creeping in here foreach ($array1 as $key=>$element) { if (in_array($element, $array2)) { $answer[$key] = $element; } } return $answer; } ?>
Tim Ward Senior Systems Engineer
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fang Li [mailto:fli
biographix.com]
> Sent: 15 March 2001 14:03
> To: Tim Ward; 'Jimmy Bäckström'; PHP General List
> Subject: RE: [PHP] RE: Function to compare an array with another array
>
>
> Hi,
> I am trying to use the Function ArrayCompare, but it always
> has an error in
> "if(($key = array_search($element, $array2)) == false)", and
> also I couldn't
> get the page of http://www.stivesdirect.com/e-mail-disclaimer.html
> Would you please give me a clue? Thanks!
>
> Fang
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tim Ward [mailto:tim.ward
stivesdirect.com]
> Sent: March 5, 2001 5:48 AM
> To: 'Jimmy Bäckström'; PHP General List
> Subject: [PHP] RE: Function to compare an array with another array
>
>
> function ArrayCompare($array1, $array2)
> { $answer = new Array()
> foreach ($array1 as $element)
> { if (($key = array_search($element, $array2)) === false)
> { $answer[$key] = $array2[$key];
> }
> }
> return $answer;
> }
>
> this will return an array that is a copy of the first array
> with only those
> elements that are not in array2. If you only want the first
> one either just
> use the first one( foreach(){ ... break;}) or put a break in the if.
>
> Tim Ward
> Senior Systems Engineer
>
> Please refer to the following disclaimer in respect of this message:
> http://www.stivesdirect.com/e-mail-disclaimer.html
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jimmy Bäckström [mailto:broder_b
chello.se]
> > Sent: 05 March 2001 06:38
> > To: PHP General List
> > Subject: Function to compare an array with another array
> >
> >
> > Shu!
> > I need some help here.
> > I have a script where I want to compare two arrays with
> > eachother, and return one value from that does not exists in
> > both arrays. I have an array of pictures id number created
> > from a database query. I use sessions to save id numbers of
> > pictures into an array. I want the first array to be compared
> > to the second and return the first key/value-pair that are
> > not found in the session array...
> > Is there a way I can do this?
> >
> > Thankful for any help!
> > /Broder B
> >
>
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My first idea is something like this:
$counter=1
while ($counter <= some maximum number){
$arrayvalue="var".$counter
write $arrayname[$arrayvalue] to database
$counter++; }
That should get the job done.
One other idea (depending on if you are just storing data or if you need to manipulate it) is to serialize or implode the array and store the result of the serialize/implode operation in the database.
John Guynn
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-----Original Message-----
From: RealGM [mailto:webmaster
realgm.com]
Hi,
I have a bit of a dilemma.
I have a number of array attributes, eg. $arrayname["var1"], $arrayname["var2"], $arrayname["var2"], etc. up to 58, and I want to write these into the database.
What I am hoping to do is create a counter that goes through the insert routine, updating the numerical value of "var". The problem is.. everything I have tried hasn't worked.
I have tried things like...
$counter=1;
$arrayname[["var".$counter1]]; $arrayname["var$counter1"]; ...and variations thereof. Everything I have tried has failed.
PLEASE can someone help??
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: RealGM [mailto:webmaster
realgm.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 3:38 AM
> To: php-general
lists.php.net
> Subject: [PHP] Dynamic Arrays?
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I have a bit of a dilemma.
>
> I have a number of array attributes, eg. $arrayname["var1"],
> $arrayname["var2"], $arrayname["var2"], etc. up to 58, and I
> want to write these into the database.
>
> What I am hoping to do is create a counter that goes through
> the insert routine, updating the numerical value of "var".
> The problem is.. everything I have tried hasn't worked.
>
> I have tried things like...
>
> $counter=1;
>
> $arrayname[["var".$counter1]];
> $arrayname["var$counter1"];
>
> ...and variations thereof. Everything I have tried has failed.
How about just
foreach ($arrayname as $arrayval) { do stuff with $arrayval }
Or, if it's also important for you to know that you're dealing with the value of "var1"...
foreach ($arrayname as $arraykey=>$arrayval) { do stuff with $arraykey and $arrayval }
--- Mark Roedel | "I know the answer! The answer lies within the Systems Programmer | heart of all mankind! The answer is twelve?!? LeTourneau University | I think I'm in the wrong building." Longview, Texas, USA | -- Peppermint Patty (Charles Schultz)
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Hello !! I have insalled php on my windows 98 machine.But the mail() function does not work. Can anyone give me info as to how to use the mail() function in php.Or rather should i require any configurations on my machine. please help thanx in advance Nilesh Parmar
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Hi
You mast have some mail server installed, or an access to one. Then you have to configure your PHP.ini file:
1. If you are running under Windows:
[mail function]
SMTP = address of the mail server (mailserver.com
or IP address)
sendmail_from = from
mailserver.com
'from' can be anything you want 'mailserver.com' must be same in both lines
2. If you are running under linux:
;sendmail_path = ;may supply arguments as well (default is 'sendmail -t -i')
K.V.
-----Original Message-----
From: Nilesh Parmar [mailto:np_wroxindia
satyam.net.in]
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 4:04 AM
To: php-general
lists.php.net
Subject: [PHP] mail() function how???
Hello !! I have insalled php on my windows 98 machine.But the mail() function does not work. Can anyone give me info as to how to use the mail() function in php.Or rather should i require any configurations on my machine. please help thanx in advance Nilesh Parmar
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Hi
The actual implementation of the mail fonction use sendmail -t and relies on sendmail to parse the headers to get the recipients. It would be great if it was possible to switch from this way of using sendmail to a more classic sendmail -f sender rcpt it should be quite easy, but I lack time to do it.
-- Mathieu Arnold
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Hi
The actual implementation of the mail function use sendmail -t and relies on sendmail to parse the headers to get the recipients. It would be great if it was possible to switch from this way of using sendmail to a more classic sendmail -f sender rcpt it should be quite easy, but I lack time to do it.
-- Mathieu Arnold
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Hello,
Mathieu Arnold wrote: > > Hi > > The actual implementation of the mail fonction use sendmail -t and > relies on sendmail to parse the headers to get the recipients. > It would be great if it was possible to switch from this way of using > sendmail to a more classic > sendmail -f sender rcpt > it should be quite easy, but I lack time to do it.
You may want to try this PHP MIME message composing and sending class that has subclasses for sending messages using directly sendmail, qmail or even a SMTP server.
http://phpclasses.UpperDesign.com/browse.html/package/9
Manuel Lemos
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I am trying to get a list of all directories within a specified directory.
Any ideas how to do this?
Thanks
Tim
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On Thursday 15 March 2001 16:05, you wrote: > I am trying to get a list of all directories within a specified > directory. > > Any ideas how to do this?
go through all entries of the dir. on each entry check if it's a directory. if it is, list it
For all other questions on this topic check the manual
-- Christian Reiniger LGDC Webmaster (http://sunsite.dk/lgdc/)Pretty cool, the kind of power information technology puts in our hands these days.
- Securityfocus on probing 36000000 hosts for known problems in 3 weeks
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Hi... ..where i can found documentation abour the use and the installation of MCAL library in Solaris plattform?
Robert Celestino.
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This will work fine. The script will continue to run after the meta refresh unless the exit is there.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Carfield Yim [mailto:carfield
programmer.net]
> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 3:24 AM
> To: php-general
lists.php.net
> Subject: [PHP] Will my script run after redirect?
> if( $i = 0) > { > print "<meta http-equiv=refresh content=\"0;url=$url\">"; > exit; > } > $i++; > > Will it work? Is it have any side-effect?
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Nicolas MERLET a écrit :
> Please help me ! My problem is that I can't load PHP scripts (.php
> extension) with my personal server. My OS is Windows 95B (but MSIE 5
> update), and I use PWS for Win 95 (not 4.0 for Win 98). My PHP version
> is: 4.0.4pl1 for Win32 I've already done this instructions, I've found
> in the manual: - Updating DCOM- Copying "php.ini" into "c:\windows\"
> directory- Writing correct path for "extension_dir" field (my path is
> "c:\php")- Adding ".php" registry key in
> "HKLM/System/.../W3Svc/Parameters/ScriptMap" with "c:\php\php.exe %s
> %s" value- Adding ".php" extension in "HKCR" registry key (with
> correct parameters, I've tested it, there's no running problem) I
> don't understand why PHP doesn't run on my server. Maybe
> "ScriptMap/.php" registry key value is wrong...I'm waiting for any
> answer... Nicolas Merlet ____________
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On Thu, Mar 15, 2001 at 06:10:43AM -0600, Derek Sivers wrote: > > >the connection will close when you hit cancel but the PHP > >code can continue running if you choose. > > How do you choose to have the PHP script continue even if a browser > leaves/dumps?
Check out the ignore_user_abort() function.
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Hey!
You could easily use the Environment Variables.
echo "http://$HTTP_HOST/$PATH_INFO";
will do the trick..
Best Regards -
Aviv Revach
At 13:45 15/03/01 +0100, Geer wrote:
>Hi there,
>
>Does anyone know how I can read the address of URL the user filled in in
>his/her browser???
>
>
>Greetings,
>
>Geer
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Hi,
I need to build two copies of a website on one machine - one for development and one for a backup. I want to be able to use different php.ini files with each copy of the site. Can I do this without compiling two Apache/PHP excutables? ie can it be done with virtual hosting somehow or by any other means?
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We just started doing this using Apache's virtual hosting and .htaccess files to alter php.ini's configuration settings on a per application basis. Haven't played with it much yet, tho. Looks good so far.
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> From: Kevin Porter [mailto:kevin.porter
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> Subject: [PHP] separate php.ini files
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I need to build two copies of a website on one machine - one
> for development
> and one for a backup. I want to be able to use different
> php.ini files with
> each copy of the site. Can I do this without compiling two Apache/PHP
> excutables? ie can it be done with virtual hosting somehow or
> by any other
> means?
>
> thanks,
>
> - Kev
>
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> From: Kevin Porter [mailto:kevin.porter
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> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 9:37 AM
> To: php-general
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> Subject: [PHP] separate php.ini files
>
>
> I need to build two copies of a website on one machine - one
> for development and one for a backup. I want to be able to use
> different php.ini files with each copy of the site. Can I do
> this without compiling two Apache/PHP excutables? ie can it be
> done with virtual hosting somehow or by any other means?
You can only have one php.ini for each instance of PHP.
However
You can also control the PHP settings for each copy of the site by using php configuration directives in the relevant sections of your httpd.conf.
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Hello,
Has anyone run into problems using PHP to access a database (MySQL) and build a form. I am trying to build a form that contains anywhere from 10 to 20 tables. Each table will contain drop down menus, text boxes and text areas. As you may envision, this form can be quite lengthy.
I populate the form by creating a loop and accessing the MySQL database. Each iteration returns data (24 fields) from a record in my Database table).
My problem is that after loading the page, my browser appears to lock up and any attempt to run other programs gives me a Windows Low Memory error (and that I should close other programs).
Note: Third may not be a PHP problem but as I am unsure, I have to start somewhere. Note2: I have already queried the HTML newsgroup and the feedback I received was that large forms should not cause this problem.
Thanks, Don
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Hey Don,
I'm sure most of us have experienced problems with PHP and MySQL, but of a programming error, not usually a "bug". Do you have some code you could share? I'm using PHP and MySQL with lots of forms and things are great.
jack
Don wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> Has anyone run into problems using PHP to access a database (MySQL) and
> build a form. I am trying to build a form that contains anywhere from
> 10 to 20 tables. Each table will contain drop down menus, text boxes
> and text areas. As you may envision, this form can be quite lengthy.
>
> I populate the form by creating a loop and accessing the MySQL
> database. Each iteration returns data (24 fields) from a record in my
> Database table).
>
> My problem is that after loading the page, my browser appears to lock up
> and any attempt to run other programs gives me a Windows Low Memory
> error (and that I should close other programs).
>
> Note: Third may not be a PHP problem but as I am unsure, I have to start
> somewhere.
> Note2: I have already queried the HTML newsgroup and the feedback I
> received was that large forms should not cause this problem.
>
> Thanks,
> Don
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Don wrote:
> Hello, > > Has anyone run into problems using PHP to access a database (MySQL) and > build a form. I am trying to build a form that contains anywhere from > 10 to 20 tables. Each table will contain drop down menus, text boxes > and text areas. As you may envision, this form can be quite lengthy. > > I populate the form by creating a loop and accessing the MySQL > database. Each iteration returns data (24 fields) from a record in my > Database table). > > My problem is that after loading the page, my browser appears to lock up > and any attempt to run other programs gives me a Windows Low Memory > error (and that I should close other programs). > > Note: Third may not be a PHP problem but as I am unsure, I have to start > somewhere. > Note2: I have already queried the HTML newsgroup and the feedback I > received was that large forms should not cause this problem.
Then I'd have to say that the HTML newsgroup people don't know what they're talking about, because it's quite simple to make a form so large as to cause browser issues/crashes/low memory warnings. Let's see - if you have 32 megs in your system, assume a lot is taken up by the OS and browser itself. So creating a 10 meg form could easily crash your system.
Not suggesting you have a 10 meg form, but it's hard to know how things are calculated. Just because you have 30k of HTML doesn't mean it takes up 30k in your browser's memory, as it has to create internal structures from your HTML to know how to render stuff, then there's the actual graphic displaying of what your form is.
We had a client who wanted an inventory form. They have ~200 items - creating a form with all 200 items, each with a pulldown option box with 6 options, was causing problems on Windows machines using Netscape with less than 64 megs of RAM. This was only 6 months ago with Win98 and netscape 4.7, so I think it's safe to say it's definitely possible. (we had to break the form up into their separate product categories - about 7 - so each page only has 20-30 items on it)
Now, is this what's happening to you? Could be - could you send a URL for others to hit to see if we experience the same problem? If I hit it with 128 megs of RAM with no problem, and you crash with 32 megs, there's your problem. BUT... it might be something more than that.
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> Don wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > Has anyone run into problems using PHP to access a database (MySQL) and > > build a form. I am trying to build a form that contains anywhere from > > 10 to 20 tables. Each table will contain drop down menus, text boxes > > and text areas. As you may envision, this form can be quite lengthy. > > > > I populate the form by creating a loop and accessing the MySQL > > database. Each iteration returns data (24 fields) from a record in my > > Database table). > > > > My problem is that after loading the page, my browser appears to lock up > > and any attempt to run other programs gives me a Windows Low Memory > > error (and that I should close other programs). > > > > Note: Third may not be a PHP problem but as I am unsure, I have to start > > somewhere. > > Note2: I have already queried the HTML newsgroup and the feedback I > > received was that large forms should not cause this problem. > > Then I'd have to say that the HTML newsgroup people don't know > what they're talking about, because it's quite simple to make a form > so large as to cause browser issues/crashes/low memory warnings. > Let's see - if you have 32 megs in your system, assume a lot is taken > up by the OS and browser itself. So creating a 10 meg form > could easily crash your system. > > Not suggesting you have a 10 meg form, but it's hard to know how things > are calculated. Just because you have 30k of HTML doesn't mean it takes > up 30k in your browser's memory, as it has to create internal structures > from your HTML to know how to render stuff, then there's the actual graphic > displaying of what your form is. > > We had a client who wanted an inventory form. They have ~200 items - creating > a form with all 200 items, each with a pulldown option box with 6 options, was > causing problems on Windows machines using Netscape with less than 64 megs of > RAM. This was only 6 months ago with Win98 and netscape 4.7, so I think it's > safe to say it's definitely possible. (we had to break the form up into their > separate product categories - about 7 - so each page only has 20-30 items on > it) > > Now, is this what's happening to you? Could be - could you send a URL for > others to hit to see if we experience the same problem? If I hit it with 128 > megs of RAM with no problem, and you crash with 32 megs, there's your problem. > BUT... it might be something more than that.
I agree with your analysis. As I've thought about it more, I realize that I have no control over the exact number of tables that will exist in my form and hence, the total number items on the form. Reason being that this is dynamic and based on vales returned from a database.
Expecting my clients to have the necessary hardware / memory in order to use it is ridiculous. So, I am logically breaking it into two screen, one with the subject of each table linked that the client can 'click'. The other, a generic form that will retrieve values based on the subject clicked on the previous page. I guess you can call it "normalizing" my form.
By the way, say that each subject link is a numeric string, will my second page have access to that string, i.e., can I pass it as a parameter in my <A HREF=> tag? The first page will be PHP generated while the second will be HTML with a PHP script to access the database and build my form. I have not found any documentation on how to do this on the HTML docs so I was wondering if there is a trick to this.
Thanks, Don
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Can anyone tell me why the following code returns 0 instead of 3600 seconds?
<?php $gmttime = gmmktime(1,0,0,1,1,1970); echo "gmttime = $gmttime<br>\n"; ?>
However, using mktime() for the same date does produce the correct output, which for my timezone (CST) is 25200 seconds. Furthermore, running this on a Linux machine with PHP4 produces the correct result for both cases.
I'm using the php4.0.5 release from www.php4win.de along with an Apache server on Win2K. I was also seeing this bug in a previous php4 stable release and thought it had been fixed. Perhaps not...
-david
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Hello,
This is a sample php code that doesn't work on my workstation.
<?php $s = eregi_replace ("a(b)c", "A\\1C", "abc"); echo $s; ?>
The ouptut is "A\1Cbc" instead of "AbC".
Debian Gnu/Linux 2.2 Apache 1.3.14 php 3.0.18 (apache module)
Thanks for your help.
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Can you set, in your script, where the files are uploaded so that the files can be uploaded into a directory that allows you to do a copy.
Keith
On Wed, 14 Mar 2001, Mig wrote:
> Keith Vance wrote: > > > You should be able to do something using PHP, try looking here, > > http://www.php.net/manual/cs/features.file-upload.php > > I think there is just a communication problem between you and your hosting > > company. They don't allow ftp uploads, but as long as you are doing it > > through http, it should work fine. There is also some good stuff about > > this on http://www.phpbuilder.com. I do it all the time and my hosting > > company couldn't care less, but your's may be different and you may have > > to switch or should switch to someone else if you can't get the http > > upload to work. > > > > Keith > > Hello Keith, thanks very much. Sorry because I forgot explain following: picture files really are uploaded to host server, because I check temp file and they are ok (I check $userfile_temp variable). My problem is: I can't move, copy, rename or anything else other than 'open and read' this file. Whenever I try exec copy commands I receive 'copy command denied for /web/.....'. > You know temp files will be deleted when script terminates, so I die with my pictures in hand. > > Thanks again > > Mig > >
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> Mig, > This is some code I was sent when I needed to display images that were > located outside of the web dir. > > ~~~~~~~~~~ > If you want the images outside the web-tree, your image tag would be more > like this: > > <IMG SRC=display.php3?imagefile=happy.gif> > > Then display.php3 would look not unlike: > > <?php > header("Content-type: image/gif"); > header("Content-length: " . filesize("C:/hide/images/$imagefile")); > //Caching headers here. > //And Content-disposition > //And Content-filename > //and so on. > readfile("C:/hide/images/$imagefile"); > ?>
Hello Kathleen
Thanks very much, I checked your idea and must say it works nice .... with files, but when I need pass strings like parameters for PHP program, things become difficult. I will follow your clever idea, because I know it will work, but first need solve two problems (sorry I am newer to PHP and sometimes confused the way PHP treat variables ).
First problem is: how store content of image file (jpg or gif) into MySql BLOB fields? Mysql update command uses variable='value' to update (or insert) values. Image data has lot of ' " ' and " ' " in between, so I receive 1054 ERROR when trying to pass update image='$image', because $image variable expands before sending data to database.
Second problem is:
how to pass later same string $image recovered from MySql to display.php3 program?
In your example, your are passing file name, a very single string that wouldn't cause any confusion, but when passing display.php3?stream-image=$image things will become hard.
Probably I will need to reopen Mysql database into display.php3 program and so I would pass only record number to display.php3, letting this program to search again record.
Anyway, I modified display.php3 program to execute $image = fread(file...) and then echo $image, .... and it works fine.., that's to say, it is just question of string treatment, and really GD library is not necessary.
Thanks
Miguel
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For some reason the number of hits value is not getting replaced [after incrementing] into the original counter file.
any help would be appreciated. here is the code : <?php $cntfile = "count"; // The filename where the number of hits is stored, if there isnt one then make it & put the number 0 in it $rs = fopen ($cntfile, "rw");
while (!feof($rs)) { $cntr = fgets($rs, 4096); echo "counter now is $cntr"; echo "<br>"; } fclose ($rs); $wr = fopen ($cntfile, "rw"); $cntr+=1; fputs($wr, $cntr);
echo $cntr; fclose($wr); ?>
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http://www.weberdev.com/index.php3?GoTo=get_example.php3?count=1501
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From: Richard Banks [mailto:rbanks
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Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 6:17 PM
To: Php-General
Subject: [PHP] newbie problem: Hit counter.
For some reason the number of hits value is not getting replaced [after incrementing] into the original counter file.
any help would be appreciated. here is the code : <?php $cntfile = "count"; // The filename where the number of hits is stored, if there isnt one then make it & put the number 0 in it $rs = fopen ($cntfile, "rw");
while (!feof($rs)) { $cntr = fgets($rs, 4096); echo "counter now is $cntr"; echo "<br>"; } fclose ($rs); $wr = fopen ($cntfile, "rw"); $cntr+=1; fputs($wr, $cntr);
echo $cntr; fclose($wr); ?>
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You could can "forward" posted data the same way if you wanted to. I don't know what you mean by forwarding. But if you had one script that was a form and the action was set to a script called action.php and then you wanted to pass that data to yet another script, you could pass the values in the url or a session variable or hidden fields in another form.
Keith
On Thu, 15 Mar 2001, Nick Davies wrote:
>
> How do i forward POST data from a php script. Obviously GET is simple
> (just script.php?$QUERY_STRING) but how does it work with post?
>
>
> Thanks.
>
> Nick.
>
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I'm going to use the curl libs. But FYI i was wanting to forward the data again using post.
On Thu, 15 Mar 2001, Keith Vance wrote:
> You could can "forward" posted data the same way if you wanted to. I don't
> know what you mean by forwarding. But if you had one script that was a
> form and the action was set to a script called action.php and then you
> wanted to pass that data to yet another script, you could pass the values
> in the url or a session variable or hidden fields in another form.
>
> Keith
>
> On Thu, 15 Mar 2001, Nick Davies wrote:
>
> >
> > How do i forward POST data from a php script. Obviously GET is simple
> > (just script.php?$QUERY_STRING) but how does it work with post?
> >
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Nick.
> >
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Is is permissions of the Apache process?
> Well, no, I'm not sure... I, personally, am a graphic designer that used to > program and somehow got suckered into programming again.. however, the person > in charge of teh server came to this conclusion for us and wether he is righ > or wrong, we have to face the fact that the exact same code to make the system > call used to work and now doesn't. There is no error or warning, and it > happened right around when we sopped running php as a cgi script and started > running it as an apache mod... ::shrug:: so, what he says makes some degree of > sense anyway. >
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Hi everyone, Could any one tell me what is the search engine you always use? Thank.
Calvin
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Hi (again).
Is there a simple was to take post data from a form and create a query string out of it?
Thanks.
Nick.
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PHPLIB http://phplib.netuse.de/ has a Query class in sql_query.inc which is used in conjunction with the DB_Sql class. It can be used to create dynamic insert and update queries by assuming that global variables exist which map onto a paricular tables field. You basically name the table and it creates the query for you.
You can also use it to create the select part of your sql queries say to select all the fields from the table, to fill in a form.
The PEAR library (come with PHP install files) may also have something similiar but I haven't got it at hand to look at.
-Stewart
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From: Nick Davies [mailto:nick
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Subject: [PHP] POST conversion.
Hi (again).
Is there a simple was to take post data from a form and create a query string out of it?
Thanks.
Nick.
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alot of times when people ask this question they are sking the quesion because they are coding this logically incorrect, Im sure this isnt that case for you though.
<?php
function make_args() { global $HTTP_POST_VARS;
if (isset($HTTP_POST_VARS)) { foreach($HTTP_POST_VARS as $pos=> $val) $args[] = "$pos=$val"; if (isset($args)) return urlencode('?'. implode('&', $args)); } }
echo "
<form method='post' action='$PHP_SELF'>
<input type='text' name='form_text' value='".
$form_text ."'>
<input type='submit' name='done' value='Submit'> </form>
<a href='index.php". make_args() ."'>index</a> ";
?>
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Hi (again).
Is there a simple was to take post data from a form and create a query string out of it?
Thanks.
Nick.
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One problem is that you call counter "counter" in one location and call it "counter1" in another location, otherwise, I don't think many things happen successfully inside of square brackets. This problem, and general readability can be enhanced by putting spaces around '=' in your code.
So,try this, it works for me:
$counter = 1; $tmp="var".$counter; $arrayname[$tmp] = blah;
>I have tried things like... > >$counter=1; > >$arrayname[["var".$counter1]]; >$arrayname["var$counter1"]; > >...and variations thereof. Everything I have tried has failed. > >PLEASE can someone help??
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The problem I have it's an entire story. First of all, I will tell you that knows a little more about Linux.
I created a chat software with couple php scripts. The chat it's using MySQL. I think the chat software is good (not the best one) but first of all is easier to use than what I saw on the net. I still have to do couple major improvments to make, that it will make, definitelly the best chat ever written in php and mysql. I'm so proud about this chat because till now I tested a lot of chat's written in php but not even one is like the one I written.
The main problem I have with my chat is that after some use of it, the server is going very very slowly. Someone with (256Mb, 800Mhz and just my chat running (Linux also)) told me that the chat is still doing this stuff. The problem he told me about it, it's that the httpd (apache) connections don't close.
I intend to make this chat free like a bird, and also to be improved by anyone, anyhow but first of all I need to change my chat to work more than 2 days :o).
Can you put my chat on your server and tell me what exactly it's not working correctly ?
I attached the rar archive.
I would like to anyone who will take 30 min. from his time and test my chat, and also I will promise him that I will give every version of it if he will help with his PRECIOUS advice.. :-) PS: in the tables.txt you have the structure of tables. In chat_intern you have to set-up the database name, server etc. (In the future I will create a setup.oho with all the setup infos)
Yours, Marian Vasile IT Manager Schnecker van Wyk & Pearson www.investments.ro
- application/x-rar-compressed attachment: chat.rar
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I am looking for good php editors. Currently, i am using PHP coder. It highlights syntax and checks my syntax. It's also executes my PHP codes. Are there any editors like that? I just want a editor that highlights my code and check my syntax.
regards
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I think this discussion just took place, try searching the mailing list archives for "good php editor"
Keith
On Thu, 15 Mar 2001, McShen wrote:
> I am looking for good php editors. Currently, i am using PHP coder. It
> highlights syntax and checks my syntax. It's also executes my PHP codes. Are
> there any editors like that? I just want a editor that highlights my code
> and check my syntax.
>
> regards
>
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On Fri, 16 Mar 2001 03:24, McShen wrote: > I am looking for good php editors. Currently, i am using PHP coder. It > highlights syntax and checks my syntax. It's also executes my PHP > codes. Are there any editors like that? I just want a editor that > highlights my code and check my syntax. > > regards
Here goes the Editors advocacy war _again_ And wasn't this question asked a couple of days ago? And last week? And the week before....
Check the links page http://au2.php.net/links.php (or your favourite mirror), scroll down to PHP Scripts and Programs and then follow the link
PHP Editors List A comprehensive list of editors you can use to edit PHP programs
It would probably be nice if this were in the FAQ - if anybody ever read the FAQ :-)
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It is there a list of most frequently asked questions? It seems that people ask the same questions, again and again, they do not READ THE MANUAL. Yes I have asked 2 stupid questions, but I really did search and I am reading my manuals, the PHP and the book that I bought.
Also I would like to know if there would be a demand for an experienced mailing list? I am just frustrated by the same 3 questions that pop up about once a day. The rest of the posts are great.
Rick
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on 3/15/01 9:04 AM, Rick St Jean at rstjean
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> Also I would like to know if there would be a demand for an > experienced mailing list? I am just frustrated by the same 3 > questions that pop up about once a day. The rest of the posts > are great. > > Rick
I once thought a great product for mail lists (would require an admin interface, PHP?) would be a way to put into the list mail signature a random FAQ link.
Fill that particular FAQ with commonly asked questions and have the FAQ sent out each month to all subscribers. A decent threaded mail reader would make this reasonably easy (notice I did not say *simple*) to administer.
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> I once thought a great product for mail lists (would require an admin > interface, PHP?) would be a way to put into the list mail signature a random > FAQ link. > > Fill that particular FAQ with commonly asked questions and have the FAQ sent > out each month to all subscribers. A decent threaded mail reader would make > this reasonably easy (notice I did not say *simple*) to administer. >
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Or what would be more interesting would be some sort of buffer between you and the list, ie: you send an email to the list the listserv picks the 3 best matches to your email from a database of faqs AND/OR the listserv picks the 3 best matches to your email from a database of the list's threads
and sends these to you in an email. Replying to the email sends your originial query to the list.
mal
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From: RBL [mailto:daveg
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Sent: 15 March 2001 17:17
To: Rick St Jean; php-general
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Subject: Re: [PHP] FAQ
on 3/15/01 9:04 AM, Rick St Jean at rstjean
internet.look.ca wrote:
> Also I would like to know if there would be a demand for an > experienced mailing list? I am just frustrated by the same 3 > questions that pop up about once a day. The rest of the posts > are great. > > Rick
I once thought a great product for mail lists (would require an admin interface, PHP?) would be a way to put into the list mail signature a random FAQ link.
Fill that particular FAQ with commonly asked questions and have the FAQ sent out each month to all subscribers. A decent threaded mail reader would make this reasonably easy (notice I did not say *simple*) to administer.
Example
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I'd just like to offset my other email by saying that a faq is often no substitute for the knowledge and experience of this list's members. In a strange way, the 'dumb' question this list gets proves the a faq can not be expected to know the right way to answer a query. A list member out there just might know _exactly_ what you need to solve your problem.
mal
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Sent: 15 March 2001 17:17
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Subject: Re: [PHP] FAQ
on 3/15/01 9:04 AM, Rick St Jean at rstjean
internet.look.ca wrote:
> Also I would like to know if there would be a demand for an > experienced mailing list? I am just frustrated by the same 3 > questions that pop up about once a day. The rest of the posts > are great. > > Rick
I once thought a great product for mail lists (would require an admin interface, PHP?) would be a way to put into the list mail signature a random FAQ link.
Fill that particular FAQ with commonly asked questions and have the FAQ sent out each month to all subscribers. A decent threaded mail reader would make this reasonably easy (notice I did not say *simple*) to administer.
Example
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Cool idea,
I am going to add that to the spec for the mailing list program we are working on. it is relatively simple if you put it there when you are planning the app.
At 09:17 AM 3/15/01 -0800, RBL wrote:
>on 3/15/01 9:04 AM, Rick St Jean at rstjean
internet.look.ca wrote:
>
> > Also I would like to know if there would be a demand for an
> > experienced mailing list? I am just frustrated by the same 3
> > questions that pop up about once a day. The rest of the posts
> > are great.
> >
> > Rick
>
>I once thought a great product for mail lists (would require an admin
>interface, PHP?) would be a way to put into the list mail signature a random
>FAQ link.
>
>Fill that particular FAQ with commonly asked questions and have the FAQ sent
>out each month to all subscribers. A decent threaded mail reader would make
>this reasonably easy (notice I did not say *simple*) to administer.
>
>
>Example
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people wouldnt use an FAQ, when you see three people ask the exact same question on one single day, you know they dont read the other post, or care. if they wont read the posts on the same day they wont read an FAQ, they keep posting.
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""Mal McKay"" <mckaym
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illyana.com... I'd just like to offset my other email by saying that a faq is often no substitute for the knowledge and experience of this list's members. In a strange way, the 'dumb' question this list gets proves the a faq can not be expected to know the right way to answer a query. A list member out there just might know _exactly_ what you need to solve your problem.
mal
-----Original Message----- From: RBL [mailto:daveg
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on 3/15/01 9:04 AM, Rick St Jean at rstjean
internet.look.ca wrote:
> Also I would like to know if there would be a demand for an > experienced mailing list? I am just frustrated by the same 3 > questions that pop up about once a day. The rest of the posts > are great. > > Rick
I once thought a great product for mail lists (would require an admin interface, PHP?) would be a way to put into the list mail signature a random FAQ link.
Fill that particular FAQ with commonly asked questions and have the FAQ sent out each month to all subscribers. A decent threaded mail reader would make this reasonably easy (notice I did not say *simple*) to administer.
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The problem is that people are lazy or just to stupid to look for stuff. Sometimes yes, we just miss something small or it is under another section. I have done it as recently as tuesday with implode. But this is getting nuts.
I guess I am frustrated because all the lists I am on are filled with lazy people who whine and want someone else to do all their work for them. PHP is not low level if you need something simple use iHTML. It is the simplest scripting language out there.
I propose that the first few sentances of the signup message should be...
READ THE MANUAL BEFORE POSTING!!!!!! READ THE MANUAL BEFORE POSTING!!!!!! READ THE MANUAL BEFORE POSTING!!!!!! if you are confused about this... READ THE MANUAL BEFORE POSTING!!!!!!
SEARCH THE ARCHIVES / FAQ BEFORE POSTING!!!!! SEARCH THE ARCHIVES / FAQ BEFORE POSTING!!!!! SEARCH THE ARCHIVES / FAQ BEFORE POSTING!!!!! if you doing understand then SEARCH THE ARCHIVES / FAQ BEFORE POSTING!!!!!
Rick
At 10:22 AM 3/15/01 -0600, Chris Lee wrote:
>people wouldnt use an FAQ, when you see three people ask the exact same
>question on one single day, you know they dont read the other post, or
>care. if they wont read the posts on the same day they wont read an FAQ,
>they keep posting.
>
>
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> lee
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>
>
>
>
>""Mal McKay"" <mckaym
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illyana.com...
>I'd just like to offset my other email by saying that a faq is often no
>substitute for the knowledge and experience of this list's members. In a
>strange way, the 'dumb' question this list gets proves the a faq can not be
>expected to know the right way to answer a query. A list member out there
>just might know _exactly_ what you need to solve your problem.
>
>mal
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: RBL [mailto:daveg
rblc.com]
>Sent: 15 March 2001 17:17
>To: Rick St Jean; php-general
lists.php.net
>Subject: Re: [PHP] FAQ
>
>
>on 3/15/01 9:04 AM, Rick St Jean at rstjean
internet.look.ca wrote:
>
> > Also I would like to know if there would be a demand for an
> > experienced mailing list? I am just frustrated by the same 3
> > questions that pop up about once a day. The rest of the posts
> > are great.
> >
> > Rick
>
>I once thought a great product for mail lists (would require an admin
>interface, PHP?) would be a way to put into the list mail signature a random
>FAQ link.
>
>Fill that particular FAQ with commonly asked questions and have the FAQ sent
>out each month to all subscribers. A decent threaded mail reader would make
>this reasonably easy (notice I did not say *simple*) to administer.
>
>
>Example
>--
>Need a PHP editor? (http://php.net/common_questions.html?Q=phpeditors)
>
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This is _and_ was _and_ ever shall be the state of mailing lists that help people. In the years that I have been on mailing lists, I have never seen a high volume list that wasnt filled with request after request for common knowledge.
The problem is not stopping people from asking the same manual Q's over and over , it's actually taking/assisting the burden off of the people that answer the Q's.
Thus we get a moderated list....
> The problem is that people are lazy or just to stupid to look for stuff. > Sometimes yes, we just miss something small or it is under another section. > I have done it as recently as tuesday with implode. But this is getting nuts. > I guess I am frustrated because all the lists I am on are filled with lazy > people > who whine and want someone else to do all their work for them. PHP is not
take it easy,
christopher
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> READ THE MANUAL BEFORE POSTING!!!!!! > READ THE MANUAL BEFORE POSTING!!!!!! > READ THE MANUAL BEFORE POSTING!!!!!! > if you are confused about this... READ THE MANUAL BEFORE POSTING!!!!!!
Which manual? BTW your posting looks like you don't know anything about quoting rules in mailing lists.
-Egon
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On Fri, 16 Mar 2001 03:34, Rick St Jean wrote: > It is there a list of most frequently asked questions? > It seems that people ask the same questions, again and again, > they do not READ THE MANUAL. Yes I have asked 2 stupid > questions, but I really did search and I am reading my manuals, > the PHP and the book that I bought.
Seems to me that a significant number of questions arise from people who don't have any idea of the concepts behind 'programming', if I may overload that term. 'How do I make a loop work' 'How can I print the numbers 1 to 5'.
> Also I would like to know if there would be a demand for an > experienced mailing list? I am just frustrated by the same 3 > questions that pop up about once a day. The rest of the posts > are great.
As has been noted before, there is little purpose in splitting the list like that. If the 'newbies' all go to the 'inexperienced' list, from whence do they gain wisdom? And then the 'newbies' learnn about the 'experienced' list and go there and we're back to square one. :-)
Check the archives for _extended_ discussion on that topic.
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How many times are people going to complain about no-brainer questions being posted to the list. The fact of the matter is people are going to post things on the list without reading the manual or the FAQ. It goes with the territory. It annoys me too, but there is no good solution for the problem. There is the fact that a lot of people are new and don't really know where to go to find answers. Even if they go to the web site, they still may not know that they need to be looking for information on naming variables with variables or that fopen opens a file or whatever.
K E I T H V A N C E Software Engineer n-Link Corporation
On Fri, 16 Mar 2001, David Robley wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Mar 2001 03:34, Rick St Jean wrote:
> > It is there a list of most frequently asked questions?
> > It seems that people ask the same questions, again and again,
> > they do not READ THE MANUAL. Yes I have asked 2 stupid
> > questions, but I really did search and I am reading my manuals,
> > the PHP and the book that I bought.
>
> Seems to me that a significant number of questions arise from people who
> don't have any idea of the concepts behind 'programming', if I may
> overload that term. 'How do I make a loop work' 'How can I print the
> numbers 1 to 5'.
>
> > Also I would like to know if there would be a demand for an
> > experienced mailing list? I am just frustrated by the same 3
> > questions that pop up about once a day. The rest of the posts
> > are great.
>
> As has been noted before, there is little purpose in splitting the list
> like that. If the 'newbies' all go to the 'inexperienced' list, from
> whence do they gain wisdom? And then the 'newbies' learnn about the
> 'experienced' list and go there and we're back to square one. :-)
>
> Check the archives for _extended_ discussion on that topic.
>
>
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Just something I notices... At the bottom of the page there is a link to the mailing list (well, not directly to the list, but anywho): PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/)
Why not add this aswell: Before posting, check the PHP Generall Mailing List Archive (http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=php-general)
I like this one better than the manual to search for problems similar to the ones I have...
// Tobias Talltorp
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> It is there a list of most frequently asked questions?
> It seems that people ask the same questions, again and again,
> they do not READ THE MANUAL. Yes I have asked 2 stupid
> questions, but I really did search and I am reading my manuals,
> the PHP and the book that I bought.
>
>
> Also I would like to know if there would be a demand for an
> experienced mailing list? I am just frustrated by the same 3
> questions that pop up about once a day. The rest of the posts
> are great.
>
> Rick
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> How many times are people going to complain about no-brainer questions > being posted to the list. The fact of the matter is people are going to > post things on the list without reading the manual or the FAQ. It goes > with the territory. It annoys me too, but there is no good solution for > the problem. There is the fact that a lot of people are new and don't > really know where to go to find answers. Even if they go to the web site, > they still may not know that they need to be looking for information on > naming variables with variables or that fopen opens a file or whatever. > > K E I T H V A N C E
I think the argument has less to do with people asking questions about PHP and how it works, and more about people asking basica programming questions without knowing it. Fundamental programming concepts, like the scope of a variable, passing by reference or by value, or even looping are things newbie's simply do not understand. Why? Because they don't know they need to learn the concepts and theories of programming before learning to program. It sounds odd, but that is the way it is.
People asking questions about how a loop works are not usually asking how a PHP loop works. The same for arrays. They are really saying: "This is the first real programming language I am out to learn, and I don't understand the concept behind a For/Next Loop." This isn't a bad thing, heck, we were all newbies at one point, and in a sense, we are all newbies at something.
I think the argument is that their are many people who don't want to learn how and why a For/Next Loop works, but instead simply want someone to fix the problem for them. That isn't programming. Programming (and yes, I know, PHP is technically a scripting language, but lets not jump that fence as well) is about trial and error, logic, and creativity, but most importantly, problem solving. Most of the newbies get into PHP expecting a tutorial on every topic. If they can't find a tutorial on how to print out 5 numbers, they expect someone to show them how to do it. They don't try and solve the problem themselves, and that is a problem. I don't mind assisting where I can, however, I don't like rewriting a script for someone when they don't even take the time to try and learn the fundamentals. Most newbies I have met fall into two categories. The majority start out wanting to learn PHP because someone said it was easy to learn, which it is, from a programmers point of view. However, when in the second week of learning their first programming language they can't program that PHP Database Content Management System with Instant Yahoo News Retrival complete with User Database, Forums, and Real Time Foo, they start getting upset and say that PHP sucks. Those same people may also complain because they can't find a tutorial on how to create a Forum Database, and all they can find are tutorials on the basics of Database Design.
I think this is the real problem. Try to run before they have learned to crawl and walk.
Jason Lotito www.NewbieNetwork.net Where those who can, teach; and those who can, learn.
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Ye 2001-03-15 20:11 -0800, Jason Lotito skribis:
(someone) > > How many times are people going to complain about no-brainer questions > > being posted to the list. The fact of the matter is people are going to > > post things on the list without reading the manual or the FAQ. It goes > > with the territory. It annoys me too, but there is no good solution for > > the problem. There is the fact that a lot of people are new and don't
There is a single solution. Instantly delete the message.
If you want to flame lamers and delete all followups, that is fine, too.
What is not fine is to let the response become itself a subject of discussion. (All this is IMHO).
> > really know where to go to find answers. Even if they go to the web site, > > they still may not know that they need to be looking for information on > > naming variables with variables or that fopen opens a file or whatever.
That is why it is preferable to simply delete rather than flame. But if they evidently have made nil effort they probably should attract flames.
It is not your job to educate people who are nowhere near ready to understand the matter but are simply attracted to what is newsy, or reputed to be profitable.
I recently saw a message from a "Linux Systems Engineer" who had upgraded to the Linux 2.4.2 kernel without a clue about the need to upgrade other software and instead was pleading to the wide world to help him, although the "Changes" file has been in the Linux kernel distribution for years. Don't help idiot imposters.
There are certain things that people need help on. Typically they are cases where the development has outrun the documentation, or the documentation is very bad, written by and for those who already know the answers. If you have worked out the solution to the problem, please share it. But there is an assumption that you have some kind of obligation to help lamers, that that is what mailing lists and newsgroups are for. It is totally false.
> > > > K E I T H V A N C E > > I think the argument has less to do with people asking questions about PHP > and how it works, and more about people asking basica programming questions > without knowing it. Fundamental programming concepts, like the scope of a > variable, passing by reference or by value, or even looping are things > newbie's simply do not understand. Why? Because they don't know they need > to learn the concepts and theories of programming before learning to > program. It sounds odd, but that is the way it is. > > People asking questions about how a loop works are not usually asking how a > PHP loop works. The same for arrays. They are really saying: "This is the > first real programming language I am out to learn, and I don't understand > the concept behind a For/Next Loop." This isn't a bad thing, heck, we were > all newbies at one point, and in a sense, we are all newbies at something.
But we don't decide to waste the time and resources of everyone else to save ourselves the effort of looking into the matter. It is not good enough to say, I am a newbie, and therefore I have the right to waste the time and resources of others, because they were newbies once or are newbies about something. If it is not in the PHP documentation because it is not PHP-specific, ignore the question. If it IS in the PHP documentation, ignore the question.
It is definitely a bad thing, strategically destructive of the utility of mailing lists and newsgroups, which over the last five years has caused observable degradation of the Internet culture, to help such lamers.
It is definitely a bad thing to help out people who have never entered the computer section of a bookshop, are not interested in computer programming but want to set up commercial PHP sites.
It is definitely a bad thing to help out people who cannot learn without a helper and so ask passers-by to, for no fee, teach them highly technical matters, who think you are there waiting to be made a convenience of, that asking questions of strangers on line is a complete substitute for studying the matter.
It is a long time since I saw a response saying simply, "RTFM". I should be seeing it much, much, much more.
If I ask a question on line and am ignored, I usually continue to study the matter, and sometimes become embarrassed about having asked such a dumb question. It is actually positively helpful to fail to answer questions. Probably, conversely, if is positively unhelpful to answer questions where the documentation is reasonable, as it certainly is re the separate PHP statements. You are not doing people a favor by becoming their crutch.
> I think the argument is that their are many people who don't want to learn > how and why a For/Next Loop works, but instead simply want someone to fix > the problem for them. That isn't programming. Programming (and yes, I
Yes.
> know, PHP is technically a scripting language, but lets not jump that fence > as well) is about trial and error, logic, and creativity, but most > importantly, problem solving. Most of the newbies get into PHP expecting a > tutorial on every topic. If they can't find a tutorial on how to print out > 5 numbers, they expect someone to show them how to do it. They don't try > and solve the problem themselves, and that is a problem. I don't mind
Yes.
> assisting where I can, however, I don't like rewriting a script for someone > when they don't even take the time to try and learn the fundamentals. Most
Yes.
> newbies I have met fall into two categories. The majority start out wanting > to learn PHP because someone said it was easy to learn, which it is, from a > programmers point of view. However, when in the second week of learning > their first programming language they can't program that PHP Database > Content Management System with Instant Yahoo News Retrival complete with > User Database, Forums, and Real Time Foo, they start getting upset and say > that PHP sucks. Those same people may also complain because they can't find > a tutorial on how to create a Forum Database, and all they can find are > tutorials on the basics of Database Design.
Yes. Well put.
> I think this is the real problem.
Only if you turn it into a problem. Ignore them.
Michael Talbot-Wilson
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What is faster for a chat php software ? To use a file for write or to use a MySQL database ?
Marian Vasile IT Manager Schnecker van Wyk & Pearson www.investments.ro
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I would guess that file access is faster, try it out. write a simple app that will write data to a file, close it, open it write it etc. compare this to same on a db. every computer every server is differnet, test to see what is fast on your system. thats ultimitly the most importnat no? that it runs fast on *your* system not someones in nowheres land.
A db I think would be easier to access, search, etc. I think personally I would use a db. just for convienince sake. lets say on your chat program a user want to ignore 'updatelee' with a db your looking at a simple select statment, in a file, oi, headache.
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The javascript syntax is
document.form_name.elements['preq[]'][indx]
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Subject: [PHP-DB] validating checkboxes
Hello all:
I have to validate that AT LEAST ONE checkbox is checked in a series of checkboxes...the checkboxes all use the name=preq[] so that when I process it, it will go into a php array...the problem is that I want to validate it using javascript and the [] in the object name (preq[]) causes problems in traversing the checkbox values to check if they are =true!!
Any ideas? Validating on the PHP side is not an option because this page is part of a series of pages and I encounter the dreaded "post operation reload" problem if the user has to hit the back button.
Thanks
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Hello, PHP-type folks.
I'm attempting to parse up search parameters from a user-inputted form into something I can build a query with. For example, given the string "\"grizzly bear\" or tiger and carnivorous mammal", I'd like to split it into an array like this:
array[0] = array("'grizzly bear'", "badger") array[1] = "mammal" array[2] = "carnivorous"
so that ANDed values (explicitely with "and" keyword or implicitely with whitespace) are separate entries in the main array, with ORed values together in sub-arrays, preserving double-quoted phrases without ANDing them and replacing the double-quotes with single quotes.
Quite a mess, I know, and I'm getting knowwhere with my limited regular expression experience. Splitting up AND and OR blocks is easy enough with simple strings "owl and screech or pygmy" but this preservation of quoted phrases is killing me. Any help would be appreciated.
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Justin Smith
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If I have a cookie request in a function, and check the value of a cookie, I get that there is no value, if I check for the value outside of the function, I see the value.
What should I do to ? ( SAMPLE BELOW )
function f_check_security() { # $c_uas_time is the cookie I want the value of if(isset($c_uas_time)) { # I tried the above way to just check that it is there, then I tried the below to check the value # if($c_uas_time=="GREEN") { $access="GRANT";
setcookie("c_uas_time","GREEN",(time()+200),'/','domainname.com',0);
} else { $access="DENY-GREEN"; }
return($access); }
I also tried this below to try and get the value .... echo "HTTP->" . $HTTP_COOKIE_VARS["c_uas_time"];
I appreciate your time....and look forward to stop banging my head against the wall.... 8^)
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just looking at what you said quickly, what about scope? if i can't access something inside a function, its usually because i haven't declared it global...does this not apply to cookies?
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Jack Sasportas wrote:
>
> If I have a cookie request in a function, and check the value of a
> cookie, I get that there is no value, if I check for the value outside
> of the function, I see the value.
>
> What should I do to ? ( SAMPLE BELOW )
>
> function f_check_security() {
> # $c_uas_time is the cookie I want the value of
> if(isset($c_uas_time)) {
> # I tried the above way to just check that it is there, then I tried
> the below to check the value
> # if($c_uas_time=="GREEN") {
> $access="GRANT";
>
> setcookie("c_uas_time","GREEN",(time()+200),'/','domainname.com',0);
>
> } else {
> $access="DENY-GREEN";
> }
>
> return($access);
> }
>
> I also tried this below to try and get the value ....
> echo "HTTP->" . $HTTP_COOKIE_VARS["c_uas_time"];
>
> I appreciate your time....and look forward to stop banging my head
> against the wall.... 8^)
>
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ok, this is what you asked for
<?php
function depth() { global $PHP_SELF;
$count = count_chars($PHP_SELF);
fo