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lists.php.netDate: Thu Aug 02 2001 - 23:37:01 CDT
php-general Digest 3 Aug 2001 04:37:01 -0000 Issue 793
Topics (messages 60946 through 61042):
Re: Spot the difference?
60946 by: Kyle Smith
60955 by: Inércia Sensorial
60957 by: scott [gts]
60969 by: B. van Ouwerkerk
60990 by: John Monfort
60991 by: Matthew Loff
60993 by: billfarr.ages.com
61003 by: Tom Carter
61012 by: Ezra Nugroho
ULTIMATE TUTORIAL? (where)
60947 by: Kyle Smith
60966 by: Philip Olson
Oh and one more thing
60948 by: Kyle Smith
60958 by: Philip Olson
60959 by: scott [gts]
60963 by: Dave.O
60965 by: Jeff Lewis
61020 by: Brian White
Re: New lists (was [PHP] Attitude of B van Ouwerkerk)
60949 by: Sam Masiello
60954 by: Martin Marconcini
60962 by: Miles Thompson
Re: Syntax
60950 by: Mark Roedel
60952 by: Mark Roedel
Re: How to Compare dates?
60951 by: Johnson, Kirk
60956 by: scott [gts]
Re: shtml or php ??
60953 by: Dave.O
Re: What would you want in a PHP web host?
60960 by: Kurt Lieber
60975 by: Jeff Pearson
Re: SetLocal() problem
60961 by: Don Read
Re: New lists
60964 by: B. van Ouwerkerk
Re: Attitude of B van Ouwerkerk
60967 by: Inércia Sensorial
60982 by: root
Q: Hiding Folder Directories from public while still...
60968 by: Marcus James Christian
60972 by: Jon Yaggie
60974 by: scott [gts]
60976 by: Jon Yaggie
Re: Adopt A Newbie (ME)
60970 by: B. van Ouwerkerk
60986 by: Kyle Smith
60987 by: Jack Dempsey
60989 by: John Monfort
60992 by: Philip Olson
61007 by: J Smith
61029 by: David Robley
61030 by: Lawrence.Sheed.dfait-maeci.gc.ca
61031 by: Michael J. Seely
Best way to use ocilogoff and ocifreestatement?
60971 by: Michael Champagne
Re: software localization with PHP
60973 by: Colin Viebrock
can't get gettext() to work!
60977 by: Colin Viebrock
Re: Netscape Enterprise Server
60978 by: R.
61016 by: Herman Tolentino
61017 by: Herman Tolentino
HTML file with variable replacement.
60979 by: Jason Bell
60980 by: Rasmus Lerdorf
60981 by: Jason Bell
php
60983 by: Eduardo Kokubo
60984 by: scott [gts]
.shtml or .php ?
60985 by: David Ovens
Database classe to work with Oracle
60988 by: pierre-yves
60997 by: Werner Stuerenburg
Re: SQL syntax error in PHP script. dunno what's wrong
60994 by: Chris Worth
another REGEX question
60995 by: Julian Simpson
60996 by: Jack Dempsey
60998 by: Steve Edberg
60999 by: Julian Simpson
61001 by: Julian Simpson
61004 by: Jack Dempsey
61005 by: James, Yz
Re: Strange behaviour while adding a line at the BOF
61000 by: Er Galvão Abbott
possible switch() bug in 4.0.6 ?
61002 by: Chris Lee
George W.
61006 by: Tom Malone
61010 by: Philip Olson
GetImageSize()
61008 by: John Hurleston
61009 by: Rasmus Lerdorf
PHP & JAVA: Odd Behavior
61011 by: Marcos
GET/POST "name=value" query var convention?
61013 by: Scott Thomason
61018 by: Rasmus Lerdorf
html parsing question
61014 by: Chuck Barnett
Phone Number #s Only?
61015 by: Jeff Oien
61019 by: mike cullerton
61023 by: Martin Cameron
61025 by: Jack Dempsey
61035 by: mike cullerton
timing functions / debug
61021 by: Tom Carter
Re: FAQ
61022 by: Brian White
here docs without expanding variables
61024 by: Jack Dempsey
? about PHP includes
61026 by: Craig Westerman
61027 by: David Robley
61040 by: Craig Westerman
61042 by: David Robley
question about PHP manual and ImageCopyMerge() function
61028 by: Kurt Lieber
mySQL Autoincrement Field
61032 by: Ralph Guzman
61038 by: mike cullerton
web traffic report
61033 by: Jack
61034 by: Chris Schneck
61036 by: Chris Fry
61039 by: mike cullerton
ODBC
61037 by: jtjohnston
How to add an excel file directly to MySQL database using PHP?
61041 by: Yeong CN
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Well which is easier to program?
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----- Original Message -----
From: "scott [gts]" <scottgraphictype.com>
To: "php" <php-generallists.php.net>
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 8:45 AM
Subject: RE: [PHP] Spot the difference?
> ASP is basically like PHP, only it uses a VB-based
> language instead of perl/c-based one.
>
> which means it sucks - vb is evil.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jon Yaggie [mailto:dmsalesdesign-monster.com]
> > Subject: Re: [PHP] Spot the difference?
> >
> > isnt this fact a good enough reason to believe it worthless???
> >
>
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Depends on your programming background, but I get the feeling you have
none :-)
So PHP is strongly recommend. Once you learn the basics and go for the
'only available if compiled' functions, ASP seems ridiculous weak....
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i agree that it depends heavily on your
personal biases and experiences.
if you like Perl/C++/java syntax and constructs,
then you'd probably like PHP.
if you're used to evilness like VB and BASIC
you'd probably like ASP.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Inércia Sensorial [mailto:inertehotmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 1:01 PM
> To: php-generallists.php.net
> Subject: Re: [PHP] Spot the difference?
>
>
> Depends on your programming background, but I get the feeling you have
> none :-)
>
> So PHP is strongly recommend. Once you learn the basics and go for the
> 'only available if compiled' functions, ASP seems ridiculous weak....
>
>
>
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>Whats the difference between ASP and PHP cause ASP has gotta have
>something good about it cause microsoft uses it!
ASP.. YUCK.. you think M$ is great?? yeah right.. ask any poor serveradmin
who has now codered on his hands..
Dear friend,
We did adopt you.. send you more then enough info to keep anyone busy for a
while. You still keep on sending messages at the speed of light.
Make up your mind about what you want to use.... get some info from an ASP
list and decide.. but don't please don't start trolling. You demand in your
second mail with this subject to get an answer. That's unusual to say the
least.
Bye,
B.
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>...ASP has gotta have something good about it cause microsoft uses it!
>
Hmm...you can get in sooo much trouble with that statement. Microsoft, in
any language, is not a synonym for 'quality'. Innovative? maybe. Quality?
no.
That statement should be your first reason why PHP is better. :-)
>
> -lk6-
> http://www.StupeedStudios.f2s.com
> Home of the burning lego man!
>
> ICQ: 115852509
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> AIM: legokiller666
>
>
>
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I much prefer PHP, obviously... But posting to a PHP list isn't going to
get you a very objective answer. I find PHP more versatile and easy to
use, but an ASP programmer may tell you the same thing about ASP.
Also-- try looking stuff up for yourself sometimes... I realize you're
new to PHP, but at last count, you've sent 46 e-mails to this list in
the past 10 days... 99% of your questions could be answered by going to
the PHP manual, www.phpbuilder.net, or any of the FAQs that have been
posted to this list in the past few days.
-----Original Message-----
From: Kyle Smith [mailto:dbzno1fanhotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 8:42 PM
To: php-generallists.php.net
Subject: Re: [PHP] Spot the difference?
Well which is easier to program?
-lk6-
http://www.StupeedStudios.f2s.com
Home of the burning lego man!
ICQ: 115852509
MSN: dbzno1fanhotmail.com
AIM: legokiller666
----- Original Message -----
From: "scott [gts]" <scottgraphictype.com>
To: "php" <php-generallists.php.net>
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 8:45 AM
Subject: RE: [PHP] Spot the difference?
> ASP is basically like PHP, only it uses a VB-based
> language instead of perl/c-based one.
>
> which means it sucks - vb is evil.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jon Yaggie [mailto:dmsalesdesign-monster.com]
> > Subject: Re: [PHP] Spot the difference?
> >
> > isnt this fact a good enough reason to believe it worthless???
> >
>
>
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Hokay, my 2p...
I'm a (former) ASP programmer who just made the leap from ASP to PHP about 2 weeks ago. A week ago I got my entire web-portal recoded to use PHP, a move that experience tells me can't be done as quickly and easily with ASP. All religious arguments aside, one must admit that (1) PHP is well documented and VBScript isn't (period); (2) PHP has many more USEFUL functions built-in that are already debugged and working; (3) the examples one finds on php.net, phpbuilder.net, or any other knowledge base actually WORK and are usually pretty clear; (4) there is absolutely no question that PHP's notion of security is truly secure, 100% in diametric opposition to IIS/ASP. I've tested that to destruction and am confident enough in it to release PHP as an alternative language for my web-hosting customers.
I cannot repose the same confidence in ASP--even less confidence when Front Page extensions are wrapped around it. Note that I have never released ASP as an alternative language for my customers and given its documentation and security shortcomings, it's not likely to happen.
Mind, I've used ASP for several years and am (unfortunately) intimately familiar with its shortcomings. Many of the string-manipulation functions inherent in PHP must be provided by third parties (like Vantage Point PowerStrings http://www.vpsoft.com) in order to do some tricky URL or input-cleaning routines. I challenge anyone to use M$'s mail objects with the same degree of security and reliability. Try and find real docs on VBScript -- there aren't any with any substance. M$'s site is useless as are the examples they give (which, by the way, NEVER work as demonstrated). M$ should be taking notes from php.net on how to present and maintain documentation.
Now, if a paying customer insists that I do work for them using ASP, of course that's what I'll use. But I strongly advise against it now, given the points above. With only a couple of weeks of PHP under my belt, I'm still confident enough in the language itself and the documentation around it that I will be able to do any web job that comes along. I might have to have the manual at my side a bit longer, but as time goes on I find I refer to it less and less. All in all, a very natural succession of events.
Guess that was more than two cents...keep the change :-)
Bill
-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew Loff [mailto:mattwilletts.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 4:00 PM
To: php-generallists.php.net
Subject: RE: [PHP] Spot the difference?
I much prefer PHP, obviously... But posting to a PHP list isn't going to get you a very objective answer. I find PHP more versatile and easy to use, but an ASP programmer may tell you the same thing about ASP.
Also-- try looking stuff up for yourself sometimes... I realize you're new to PHP, but at last count, you've sent 46 e-mails to this list in the past 10 days... 99% of your questions could be answered by going to the PHP manual, www.phpbuilder.net, or any of the FAQs that have been posted to this list in the past few days.
-----Original Message-----
From: Kyle Smith [mailto:dbzno1fanhotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 8:42 PM
To: php-generallists.php.net
Subject: Re: [PHP] Spot the difference?
Well which is easier to program?
-lk6- http://www.StupeedStudios.f2s.com Home of the burning lego man!
ICQ: 115852509
MSN: dbzno1fanhotmail.com
AIM: legokiller666
----- Original Message -----
From: "scott [gts]" <scottgraphictype.com>
To: "php" <php-generallists.php.net>
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 8:45 AM
Subject: RE: [PHP] Spot the difference?
> ASP is basically like PHP, only it uses a VB-based
> language instead of perl/c-based one.
>
> which means it sucks - vb is evil.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jon Yaggie [mailto:dmsalesdesign-monster.com]
> > Subject: Re: [PHP] Spot the difference?
> >
> > isnt this fact a good enough reason to believe it worthless???
> >
>
>
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A fairly detailed disucission, altho slightly out of date
http://php.resourceindex.com/Documentation/Reviews_and_Analysis/PHP_vs._ASP/
and one on the dangers of advocacy
http://www.perl.com/pub/a/2000/12/advocacy.html
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Thanks for the info, I am a PHP developer who will have to maintain some outsourced (darned) ASP codes.
For all ASP converts who are currently converting, look at http://asp2php.naken.cc/
At 04:18 PM 8/2/2001 -0400, billfarrages.com wrote:
>Hokay, my 2p...
>
>I'm a (former) ASP programmer who just made the leap from ASP to PHP about 2
>weeks ago. A week ago I got my entire web-portal recoded to use PHP, a move
>that experience tells me can't be done as quickly and easily with ASP. All
>religious arguments aside, one must admit that (1) PHP is well documented
>and VBScript isn't (period); (2) PHP has many more USEFUL functions built-in
>that are already debugged and working; (3) the examples one finds on
>php.net, phpbuilder.net, or any other knowledge base actually WORK and are
>usually pretty clear; (4) there is absolutely no question that PHP's notion
>of security is truly secure, 100% in diametric opposition to IIS/ASP. I've
>tested that to destruction and am confident enough in it to release PHP as
>an alternative language for my web-hosting customers.
>
>I cannot repose the same confidence in ASP--even less confidence when Front
>Page extensions are wrapped around it. Note that I have never released ASP
>as an alternative language for my customers and given its documentation and
>security shortcomings, it's not likely to happen.
>
>Mind, I've used ASP for several years and am (unfortunately) intimately
>familiar with its shortcomings. Many of the string-manipulation functions
>inherent in PHP must be provided by third parties (like Vantage Point
>PowerStrings http://www.vpsoft.com) in order to do some tricky URL or
>input-cleaning routines. I challenge anyone to use M$'s mail objects with
>the same degree of security and reliability. Try and find real docs on
>VBScript -- there aren't any with any substance. M$'s site is useless as
>are the examples they give (which, by the way, NEVER work as demonstrated).
>M$ should be taking notes from php.net on how to present and maintain
>documentation.
>
>Now, if a paying customer insists that I do work for them using ASP, of
>course that's what I'll use. But I strongly advise against it now, given
>the points above. With only a couple of weeks of PHP under my belt, I'm
>still confident enough in the language itself and the documentation around
>it that I will be able to do any web job that comes along. I might have to
>have the manual at my side a bit longer, but as time goes on I find I refer
>to it less and less. All in all, a very natural succession of events.
>
>Guess that was more than two cents...keep the change :-)
>
>Bill
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Matthew Loff [mailto:mattwilletts.com]
>Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 4:00 PM
>To: php-generallists.php.net
>Subject: RE: [PHP] Spot the difference?
>
>
>
>
>I much prefer PHP, obviously... But posting to a PHP list isn't going to
>get you a very objective answer. I find PHP more versatile and easy to
>use, but an ASP programmer may tell you the same thing about ASP.
>
>Also-- try looking stuff up for yourself sometimes... I realize you're
>new to PHP, but at last count, you've sent 46 e-mails to this list in
>the past 10 days... 99% of your questions could be answered by going to
>the PHP manual, www.phpbuilder.net, or any of the FAQs that have been
>posted to this list in the past few days.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Kyle Smith [mailto:dbzno1fanhotmail.com]
>Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 8:42 PM
>To: php-generallists.php.net
>Subject: Re: [PHP] Spot the difference?
>
>
>Well which is easier to program?
>
>
>-lk6-
>http://www.StupeedStudios.f2s.com
>Home of the burning lego man!
>
>ICQ: 115852509
>MSN: dbzno1fanhotmail.com
>AIM: legokiller666
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "scott [gts]" <scottgraphictype.com>
>To: "php" <php-generallists.php.net>
>Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 8:45 AM
>Subject: RE: [PHP] Spot the difference?
>
>
> > ASP is basically like PHP, only it uses a VB-based
> > language instead of perl/c-based one.
> >
> > which means it sucks - vb is evil.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Jon Yaggie [mailto:dmsalesdesign-monster.com]
> > > Subject: Re: [PHP] Spot the difference?
> > >
> > > isnt this fact a good enough reason to believe it worthless???
> > >
> >
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There has to be an ultimate php tutorial out there which goes from start to finish being easy on the brain..... if someone finds a tutorial this good, i may be forced to post less on this list..... and i wouldnt like that
-lk6- http://www.StupeedStudios.f2s.com Home of the burning lego man!
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Hi Kyle,
Yes, one such ultimate tutorial exists, it's called the PHP Manual. It's large and nice and contains many examples and user comments. If you find it scary, try out some less ultimate tutorials first. Go through the tutorials on devshed.com phpbuilder.com zend.com and related places, spend some time. No tutorial exists that'll make it immediatly click, you're going to have to spend some time on this, quality time. You will encounter scrapes, bruises, and bloody noses on the way and when that happens, php-general is here for you.
I posted some lengthy rambling posts in the past on this topic (please don't laugh), here's one perhaps it'll help your quest for PHP stardom :
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=php-general&m=97321033617984&w=2
Regards, Philip
Kyle Smith wrote:
> There has to be an ultimate php tutorial out there which goes from start
> to finish being easy on the brain..... if someone finds a tutorial this
> good, i may be forced to post less on this list..... and i wouldnt like
> that
>
>
> -lk6-
> http://www.StupeedStudios.f2s.com
> Home of the burning lego man!
>
> ICQ: 115852509
> MSN: dbzno1fanhotmail.com
> AIM: legokiller666
>
>
>
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How do i set up extra functions on my computer like mail() and date()????
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What does this mean? Please be more specific. If you want to use these functions, have a look at the PHP Manual as it contains information and examples. In fact, these two functions have the most examples.
http://www.php.net/mail http://www.php.net/date
Spend some time alone in a softly lit room with these functions. If ye first don't succeed, try try again. A good way to learn is to first fail. You'll figure it out, I'm sure of it.
Btw, what's an "extra function", mail and date are not "extra". I can see how you might have a few issues with mail on your windows machine but date?
Regards, Philip
On Thu, 2 Aug 2001, Kyle Smith wrote:
> How do i set up extra functions on my computer like mail() and date()????
>
>
> -lk6-
> http://www.StupeedStudios.f2s.com
> Home of the burning lego man!
>
> ICQ: 115852509
> MSN: dbzno1fanhotmail.com
> AIM: legokiller666
>
>
>
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it's a little bit complicated, but here goes.
1) format your harddrive 2) take out your motherboard and spraypaint it bright orange. 3) dance around the desk three times holding the motherboard above your head chanting "mail mail, give me mail" "date date, give me date" "ooooga booga woooga shooga" 4) install linux 5) install apache 6) install PHP
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kyle Smith [mailto:dbzno1fanhotmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 8:45 PM
> To: php-generallists.php.net
> Subject: [PHP] Oh and one more thing
>
>
> How do i set up extra functions on my computer like mail() and date()????
>
>
> -lk6-
> http://www.StupeedStudios.f2s.com
> Home of the burning lego man!
>
> ICQ: 115852509
> MSN: dbzno1fanhotmail.com
> AIM: legokiller666
>
>
>
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ha ha ha
----- Original Message -----
From: "scott [gts]" <scottgraphictype.com>
To: "php" <php-generallists.php.net>
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 6:05 PM
Subject: RE: [PHP] Oh and one more thing
> it's a little bit complicated, but here goes.
>
> 1) format your harddrive
> 2) take out your motherboard and spraypaint it
> bright orange.
> 3) dance around the desk three times holding the
> motherboard above your head chanting
> "mail mail, give me mail"
> "date date, give me date"
> "ooooga booga woooga shooga"
> 4) install linux
> 5) install apache
> 6) install PHP
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kyle Smith [mailto:dbzno1fanhotmail.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 8:45 PM
> > To: php-generallists.php.net
> > Subject: [PHP] Oh and one more thing
> >
> >
> > How do i set up extra functions on my computer like mail() and
date()????
> >
> >
> > -lk6-
> > http://www.StupeedStudios.f2s.com
> > Home of the burning lego man!
> >
> > ICQ: 115852509
> > MSN: dbzno1fanhotmail.com
> > AIM: legokiller666
> >
> >
> >
>
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Ok, I have to admit, that made me laugh out loud here in the office :)
Jeff
----- Original Message -----
From: "scott [gts]" <scottgraphictype.com>
To: "php" <php-generallists.php.net>
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 1:05 PM
Subject: RE: [PHP] Oh and one more thing
> it's a little bit complicated, but here goes.
>
> 1) format your harddrive
> 2) take out your motherboard and spraypaint it
> bright orange.
> 3) dance around the desk three times holding the
> motherboard above your head chanting
> "mail mail, give me mail"
> "date date, give me date"
> "ooooga booga woooga shooga"
> 4) install linux
> 5) install apache
> 6) install PHP
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kyle Smith [mailto:dbzno1fanhotmail.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 8:45 PM
> > To: php-generallists.php.net
> > Subject: [PHP] Oh and one more thing
> >
> >
> > How do i set up extra functions on my computer like mail() and
date()????
> >
> >
> > -lk6-
> > http://www.StupeedStudios.f2s.com
> > Home of the burning lego man!
> >
> > ICQ: 115852509
> > MSN: dbzno1fanhotmail.com
> > AIM: legokiller666
> >
> >
> >
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Ditto!
At 13:27 2/08/2001 -0400, Jeff Lewis wrote:
>Ok, I have to admit, that made me laugh out loud here in the office :)
>
>Jeff
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "scott [gts]" <scottgraphictype.com>
>To: "php" <php-generallists.php.net>
>Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 1:05 PM
>Subject: RE: [PHP] Oh and one more thing
>
>
> > it's a little bit complicated, but here goes.
> >
> > 1) format your harddrive
> > 2) take out your motherboard and spraypaint it
> > bright orange.
> > 3) dance around the desk three times holding the
> > motherboard above your head chanting
> > "mail mail, give me mail"
> > "date date, give me date"
> > "ooooga booga woooga shooga"
> > 4) install linux
> > 5) install apache
> > 6) install PHP
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Kyle Smith [mailto:dbzno1fanhotmail.com]
> > > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 8:45 PM
> > > To: php-generallists.php.net
> > > Subject: [PHP] Oh and one more thing
> > >
> > >
> > > How do i set up extra functions on my computer like mail() and
>date()????
> > >
> > >
> > > -lk6-
> > > http://www.StupeedStudios.f2s.com
> > > Home of the burning lego man!
> > >
> > > ICQ: 115852509
> > > MSN: dbzno1fanhotmail.com
> > > AIM: legokiller666
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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I think the problem with spreading out discussions that can be as broad as the PHP discussion is that you still tend to have people gravitate towards some of the more "general" or "higher level discussion" groups regardless of whether or not it should fall into the "newbie" category or not.
This is for a couple of reasons: 1) Newbies may think that their newbie group is read mainly by newbies...so their question either might not get answered at all or will not receive the thorough answer they were hoping for. 2) Being a newbie, they might think that their question is "worthy" (for lack of a better term) of higher level discussion because, to them, it is a very difficult problem to solve.
...not to mention that questions would then be "spammed" across multiple mailing lists anyway.
Either way, we would still need a PHP General Forum, so I am not convinced that creating more specialized mailing lists would accomplish much more than creating MORE mail traffic (from the spammed questions) and alienating people who used the more specialized lists because most everyone else is still mainly reading the "General Forum."
My 2 copper pieces worth.
Sam Masiello
Software Quality Assurance Engineer
Synacor
(716) 853-1362 x289
smasiellosynacor.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Darren Henderson [mailto:darrenbmv.state.me.us]
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:41 AM
To: B. van Ouwerkerk
Cc: php-generallists.php.net
Subject: [PHP] New lists (was [PHP] Attitude of B van Ouwerkerk)
On Tue, 31 Jul 2001, B. van Ouwerkerk wrote:
> There's nothing wrong with being a newbie.. the only newbie-problem I > see/have is the lazy one.. ask ask ask ask without taking the time to read > the manual or to do a search in the archive. Sure there are newbies who > read the manual.. get some tutorials.. thats good. They should get all the > support they need..
Unfortunately this kind of thing happens on all the mailing lists I've seen that are devoted to questions. The real problem here is that the list is simply too busy. I can do no more then skim the subject lines and then usually delete all of it unless something jumps out at me.
It might be helpful if some new mailing lists were created, it wouldn't be a perfect solution but it would help if there were some degree of self selecting behavior possible. Currenty all questions go to php-general. If there were, say, a php-newuser and a php-questions list then perhaps php-general could be used for slightly higher level discussions. Actually its probably too late to "save" php-general, hard to get people to change. Maybe a new list that caters to a higher level of discussion, say php-authoring or the like?
Just a thought. So much tends to get lost or over looked in high volume mailing lists.
________________________________________________________________________
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IMO: There should be something like the OpenBSD-misc = PHP General, and OpenBS-Tech = A more advanced list... "Please do not cross post"...
Regards,
Martin Marconcini www.marconcini.com.ar
"Life must be lived looking forward and can be understood only looking backward." Soren Kierkegaard
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sam Masiello [mailto:smasiellosynacor.com]
> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 1:15 PM
> To: Darren Henderson
> Cc: php-generallists.php.net
> Subject: RE: [PHP] New lists (was [PHP] Attitude of B van Ouwerkerk)
>
>
> I think the problem with spreading out discussions that can be as
broad as
> the PHP discussion is that you still tend to have people gravitate
towards
> some of the more "general" or "higher level discussion" groups
regardless
> of
> whether or not it should fall into the "newbie" category or not.
>
> This is for a couple of reasons:
> 1) Newbies may think that their newbie group is read mainly by
> newbies...so
> their question either might not get answered at all or will not
receive
> the
> thorough answer they were hoping for.
> 2) Being a newbie, they might think that their question is "worthy"
(for
> lack of a better term) of higher level discussion because, to them, it
is
> a
> very difficult problem to solve.
>
> ...not to mention that questions would then be "spammed" across
multiple
> mailing lists anyway.
>
> Either way, we would still need a PHP General Forum, so I am not
convinced
> that creating more specialized mailing lists would accomplish much
more
> than
> creating MORE mail traffic (from the spammed questions) and alienating
> people who used the more specialized lists because most everyone else
is
> still mainly reading the "General Forum."
>
> My 2 copper pieces worth.
>
> Sam Masiello
> Software Quality Assurance Engineer
> Synacor
> (716) 853-1362 x289
> smasiellosynacor.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Darren Henderson [mailto:darrenbmv.state.me.us]
> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:41 AM
> To: B. van Ouwerkerk
> Cc: php-generallists.php.net
> Subject: [PHP] New lists (was [PHP] Attitude of B van Ouwerkerk)
>
> On Tue, 31 Jul 2001, B. van Ouwerkerk wrote:
>
> > There's nothing wrong with being a newbie.. the only newbie-problem
I
> > see/have is the lazy one.. ask ask ask ask without taking the time
to
> read
> > the manual or to do a search in the archive. Sure there are newbies
who
> > read the manual.. get some tutorials.. thats good. They should get
all
> the
> > support they need..
>
> Unfortunately this kind of thing happens on all the mailing lists I've
> seen
> that are devoted to questions. The real problem here is that the list
is
> simply too busy. I can do no more then skim the subject lines and then
> usually delete all of it unless something jumps out at me.
>
> It might be helpful if some new mailing lists were created, it
wouldn't be
> a
> perfect solution but it would help if there were some degree of self
> selecting behavior possible. Currenty all questions go to php-general.
If
> there were, say, a php-newuser and a php-questions list then perhaps
> php-general could be used for slightly higher level discussions.
Actually
> its probably too late to "save" php-general, hard to get people to
> change. Maybe a new list that caters to a higher level of discussion,
say
> php-authoring or the like?
>
> Just a thought. So much tends to get lost or over looked in high
volume
> mailing lists.
>
>
________________________________________________________________________
> Darren Henderson
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>
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>
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Darren, et. al.,
Everything gets posted here - general syntax, database and install questions. Just look at the volume of php-mysql related questions; if they were directly posted on php-db the volume would drop to a more manageable level. Similarly, usage of php-install would help reduce traffic on php-general.
VB used to be on just one list; it was broken up into several lists and all that resulted was a slew of cross postings, with no drop in volume.
Similarly there is no dearth of material on getting started with PHP. Maybe we just have to be a little tougher, collectively, and when truly elementary questions appear, politely and firmly direct the inquirer to the tutorials.
I'd also suggest that links to the FAQ and Tutorials be prominently displayed on php.net's home page. NO NO NO - I'm wrong they ARE there, and pretty easy to find, and the tutorial page has links to other tutorials. Similarly the FAQ is easy to find, and I do believe the words "support" suggest where help may be found.
Maybe the problem is a poor educational system; some people are just too lazy to do research / properly phrase a query for a search engine / experiment a bit before posting?
I also suppose that the demand for dynamic web pages is driving people who primarily worked with html (maybe with visual tools) into a programming environment. They suddenly have to cope with flow control, tests and, quite often, use of a database too. Pretty daunting.
I do not believe a PHP-Newuser or PHP-Questions list would solve anything; all questions at that level can be answered through various tutorials and by WORKING THROUGH examples. I don't mean just cutting and pasting them, but changing them, breaking them, and finding out what happens.
And as for newbie-ishness, hell's bells, all languages /environments reduce us to that state at one time or another. I've been guilty of misplaced "}", most famously when I plaintively demanded why my while loop wasn't looping. A keen-eyed reader spotted it. Newbie question? Yes. What I was trying to do with the loop? Don't think so.
I've written enough - Miles
PS For the first time a certain correspondent has come perilously close to auto-consignment to trash; instead he needs a high level of tough love.
At 10:40 AM 8/2/01 -0400, Darren Henderson wrote:
>On Tue, 31 Jul 2001, B. van Ouwerkerk wrote:
>
> > There's nothing wrong with being a newbie.. the only newbie-problem I
> > see/have is the lazy one.. ask ask ask ask without taking the time to read
> > the manual or to do a search in the archive. Sure there are newbies who
> > read the manual.. get some tutorials.. thats good. They should get all the
> > support they need..
>
>Unfortunately this kind of thing happens on all the mailing lists I've seen
>that are devoted to questions. The real problem here is that the list is
>simply too busy. I can do no more then skim the subject lines and then
>usually delete all of it unless something jumps out at me.
>
>It might be helpful if some new mailing lists were created, it wouldn't be a
>perfect solution but it would help if there were some degree of self
>selecting behavior possible. Currenty all questions go to php-general. If
>there were, say, a php-newuser and a php-questions list then perhaps
>php-general could be used for slightly higher level discussions. Actually
>its probably too late to "save" php-general, hard to get people to
>change. Maybe a new list that caters to a higher level of discussion, say
>php-authoring or the like?
>
>Just a thought. So much tends to get lost or over looked in high volume
>mailing lists.
>
>________________________________________________________________________
>Darren Henderson darrenbmv.state.me.us
> darren.hendersonstate.me.us
>
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: BRACK [mailto:braknettaxi.com]
> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:10 AM
> To: php-generallists.php.net
> Subject: [PHP] Syntax
>
>
> I'm in a process of doing site with MySQL database, and most of
> the code I plased in index.php3 (in one file) but I've got some
> problems with statements:
>
> I have:
>
> [stuff snipped]
>
> IT DOESNT WORK!
In what way doesn't it work? Do you get an error message (if so, what does it say?) or just not the result you were expecting?
--- Mark Roedel (roedelm
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tim [mailto:infozearthlink.net]
> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:41 AM
> To: braknettaxi.com
> Cc: php-generallists.php.net
> Subject: Re: [PHP] Syntax
>
>
> You need to do:
>
> else if (isset(...)) {
Actually, elseif is a valid construct. See http://php.net/manual/en/control-structures.elseif.php
--- Mark Roedel | "The most overlooked advantage to owning a Systems Programmer | computer is that if they foul up there's no LeTourneau University | law against whacking them around a little." Longview, Texas, USA | -- Owen Porterfield
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3 left parens, 4 right parens.
Kirk
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jack Sasportas [mailto:jackinnovativeinternet.com]
> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:08 AM
> To: php
> Subject: Re: [PHP] How to Compare dates?
>
>
> OK I actually tried several things prior to the post, here
> are some of them and
> the errors
>
> if ( ( mysql_result($db_result,$db_record,'order_date')==0) ) ) {
> if ( ( mysql_result($db_result,$db_record,'order_date')=="0") ) ) {
> if ( ( mysql_result($db_result,$db_record,'order_date')=='0') ) ) {
> -or-
> if ( (
> mysql_result($db_result,$db_record,'order_date')=="00000000000
> 000") ) )
> {
> if ( (
> mysql_result($db_result,$db_record,'order_date')==000000000000
> 00) ) ) {
> -or-
> if ( (
> mysql_result($db_result,$db_record,'order_date')==strtotime("0
> 0000000000000")) )
> ) {
>
> Parse error is the result in all these attempts...with
> quotes, single or double,
> no quotes, zero or multiple zeros...by the way the timestamp
> returns all those
> zeros so I was being specific....
>
> Any ideas ?
>
> Thanks !
>
>
>
>
>
> "Johnson, Kirk" wrote:
>
> > > Can someone tell me how to properly compare the value
> > > returned from the
> > > db to see if it is blank ?
> >
> > > if ( (
> > > mysql_result($db_result,$db_record,'order_date')=00000000000000)
> > > ) ) {
> >
> > Two things, Jack. Enclose 00000000000000 in quotes, since
> it is a string,
> > but more importantly, use '==' instead of '=' for
> comparison. I hate it when
> > I do that :)
> >
> > Kirk
> >
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it also appears that you're checking for the same thing over and over and over
'0' is the same as "0" and 00000000000000 is the same as 0 and "00000000000000" is the same as '00000000000000'
try checking for either 0 or "0000-00-00"
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tim [mailto:infozearthlink.net]
> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 12:23 PM
> To: Jack Sasportas
> Cc: php
> Subject: Re: [PHP] How to Compare dates?
>
>
> To my eyeballs, it looks like you have too many closing parenthesis on
> all of those examples.
>
> - Tim
>
> On 02 Aug 2001 12:08:22 -0400, Jack Sasportas wrote:
> > OK I actually tried several things prior to the post, here are some of them and
> > the errors
> >
> > if ( ( mysql_result($db_result,$db_record,'order_date')==0) ) ) {
> > if ( ( mysql_result($db_result,$db_record,'order_date')=="0") ) ) {
> > if ( ( mysql_result($db_result,$db_record,'order_date')=='0') ) ) {
> > -or-
> > if ( ( mysql_result($db_result,$db_record,'order_date')=="00000000000000") ) )
> > {
> > if ( ( mysql_result($db_result,$db_record,'order_date')==00000000000000) ) ) {
> > -or-
> > if ( (
> > mysql_result($db_result,$db_record,'order_date')==strtotime("00000000000000")) )
> > ) {
> >
> > Parse error is the result in all these attempts...with quotes, single or double,
> > no quotes, zero or multiple zeros...by the way the timestamp returns all those
> > zeros so I was being specific....
> >
> > Any ideas ?
> >
> > Thanks !
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Johnson, Kirk" wrote:
> >
> > > > Can someone tell me how to properly compare the value
> > > > returned from the
> > > > db to see if it is blank ?
> > >
> > > > if ( (
> > > > mysql_result($db_result,$db_record,'order_date')=00000000000000)
> > > > ) ) {
> > >
> > > Two things, Jack. Enclose 00000000000000 in quotes, since it is a string,
> > > but more importantly, use '==' instead of '=' for comparison. I hate it when
> > > I do that :)
> > >
> > > Kirk
> > >
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> > Fax 305.665.2551
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> > www.web56.net
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Can anyone help me with this, I am using apache and assume that this virtual command should work, am I best to leave it in shtml or should I change to php as I am using php more and more ??? Please can somebody help me
Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave.O" <Dave.Otinyonline.co.uk>
To: "php" <php-generallists.php.net>
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 4:47 PM
Subject: Re: [PHP] shtml or php ??
> I have tried the virtual() command but keep receiving error - undefined
> function, can someone give an example in how to use this ?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dave.O" <Dave.Otinyonline.co.uk>
> To: "php" <php-generallists.php.net>
> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 4:26 PM
> Subject: [PHP] shtml or php ??
>
>
> > Which is the best language to use, php or shtml, I use only a couple of
> SSI
> > commands in shtml to call in headers and footers, and run cgi scripts as
> > below. I thought maybe as I am getting more into php that I should
change
> > the files from shtml to php, and use the equivalent commands to call in
> > headers, footers and run external .cgi programs. But as below cant see
> how
> > to load in an external .cgi program into php, as you can see below.
> >
> > I am presently using an shtml file using <!--#include file="my.htm"-->
> > which work fine and in php I can use the include('my.htm'); command.
> >
> > in one of my shtml i use the <!--#exec cgi="my.cgi"--> command, but how
> do
> > I run an external .cgi script from php, I have looked at many of the
> > commands such as include(), system(), passthru() , but cant find away to
> do
> > it. Can someone help ??
> >
> > Is it best for me to leave it in shtml as I have also discovered that
SSI
> > will not parse inside an html section in php. Which of these shtml, or
> php
> > uses more resources on the server ? Which is the best solution to my
> > problem ??
> >
> > Regards
> >
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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OK, this bugs me. Jeff -- you're obviously getting a kickback for any business you refer to them -- why not mention that in your email so we all know you have some financial interest in the company?
--kurt
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Pearson [mailto:jeffpearsonpaymentresource.com]
> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 9:00 AM
> To: Richard Baskett; php-generallists.php.net
> Subject: RE: [PHP] What would you want in a PHP web host?
>
>
> I am currently working with a hosting company that is
> striving to attain everything you all have mentioned. Check
> out http://www.eaccounts.net/ref/jp52950052/referer=emaillink
>
> I do the Beta testing for them and have all of my sites
> hosted there. If there is something missing, let me know and
> I'll bring it up to them.
>
>
> Jeff Pearson
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Richard Baskett [mailto:rickbasketthome.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 6:00 PM
> > To: php-generallists.php.net
> > Subject: Re: [PHP] What would you want in a PHP web host?
> >
> >
> > Please tell me what host you use!! I cant even seem to get
> the host I
> > am going through to upgrade php. They'll do it when they
> feel like is
> > pretty much the response I get. Other host responses: "We don't
> > support php or mysql" "Sometime in the future, but currently no
> > support", "You're the only person that has requested it, so
> until more
> > demand, we're not going to support it" Frustrating, frustrating,
> > frustrating, especially when I feel like it's the wave of
> the future.
> > A host that provides everything you've specified... is to die for :)
> >
> > So if you have a list... please do tell! :)
> >
> > Rick
> >
> > > [this is long]
> > >
> > > on 8/1/01 1:06 AM, Derek Del Conte at
> derekgambitdesign.com wrote:
> > >
> > >> I have been developing PHP for a while now, and I am wondering
> > how other
> > >> developers find their PHP hosting company. So far this has not
> > >> been an issue for me because I am always in full control of my
> > >> servers
> > (well, as
> > >> much control as possible with any web server :), but recently
> > we have begun
> > >> to host other PHP sites.
> > >
> > > my background is networking. i've built and maintained a
> number of
> > > increasingly complex networks over the years and at times
> have been
> > > intimately involved in the customer support piece. i have had
> > many jobs in
> > > the customer support area outside of technology too. now i
> > write and host
> > > php apps.
> > >
> > >> We want to make sure that we are providing appropriate support
> > to our PHP
> > >> developers. I see too many hosting companies saying that they
> > support PHP,
> > >> but not having anyone familiar with PHP on hand. We want to
> > have actual
> > >> support, a developer to call when you have a PHP issue.
> > >
> > > do you _really_ want to pay someone 24x7x365 to maintain a php
> > help line?
> > > the best coding happens outside the 9-5 window.
> > >
> > > the way i see it, as a php hosting site, your job is to keep
> > the servers up
> > > and running, 24x7x365, bug-free and up-to-date. php support is
> > for software
> > > consultants (which isn't to say that you can't do both) folks who
> > > need hosting want realiable hosting.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> What do you think a medium sized hosting company could do to
> > give you (the
> > >> developer) better service and support?
> > >
> > > honesty, reliability, communication, response, bandwidth.
> > >
> > >> Is access to professional PHP developers useful when an issue
> > >> arises?
> > >
> > > i doubt it, but imagine you could come up with a business
> model for
> > > providing php development support. probably long term stuff.
> > maybe write and
> > > maintain an application for someone, or possibly training...
> > >
> > > i would think of hosting and consulting as separate symbiotic
> > businesses.
> > > you'll get some referral business and a little cross-over, but
> > don't expect
> > > most hosting customers to want support or for folks
> who've used you
> > > to consult on a project to host their app with you.
> > >
> > >> Are hosting companies reluctant to give you more access rights?
> > >
> > > if they say 'no', does their reason atleast seem reasonable? are
> > > they willing to think about it and get back to you? do they say
> > 'yes' when they
> > > should be saying 'yes'?
> > >
> > >> Are they willing to re-compile their PHP build to add other
> > >> options?
> > >
> > > as someone else has said, all options. php hosting should be
> > php hosting.
> > >
> > > caveat--if there are some options that most folks would
> reasonably
> > > call 'optional' or 'dangerous', these shouldn't be expected. i am
> > pretty new at
> > > programming and php, so i have no idea if things like
> this exist. i
> > > personally only compile in the options i use.
> > >
> > >> How long do requested changes to the server take?
> > >
> > > unreasonable delays are unacceptable. i mean, if you can get it
> > done, do it.
> > > these are our customers. they are giving us money :)
> > >
> > > you (or your server dude(ette)) should be as excited as your
> > customer is for
> > > the new features. you should be saying "whoa, i can't believe
> > that's not in
> > > there. hold on... ... ... ok, try it now. it works? cool, have
> > a good one.
> > > <click>" :)
> > >
> > > (obviously, don't do anything to your box you don't
> understand, and
> > > security, security, security, but you get the picture)
> > >
> > >> What other suggestions do you have for improving the
> > relationship between
> > >> the server administrator and the PHP developer?
> > >
> > > do the right thing!
> > >
> > > i've been on both sides of this (positive and negative :)
> tell your
> > > customers everything you know. make it easy for them to obtain
> > any and all
> > > reasonable information 24 hours a day. anticipate customer
> > needs. constantly
> > > re-evaluate all of your policies and let your customers know them.
> > >
> > > your business should constantly evolve to your changing
> > customer base. when
> > > a customer makes a request for something you haven't considered,
> > > your response should be "hmmm..., that's interesting. let us talk
> > about that a
> > > little and get back to you". and then, slap yourself for
> not having
> > > anticipated the request, talk about it and get back to them. keep
> > > them informed.
> > >
> > > the successful enterprises i've been involved with cared
> about their
> > > customers, educated themselves about their endeavor and did the
> > right thing.
> > > too many businesses make decisions for the wrong
> reasons--political
> > > infighting, process management, knee-jerk reaction, unmotivated
> > employee,
> > > you name it. when a question arises, folks need to openly
> discuss it
> > > and come to concensus. too many folks can't admit they might not
> > know something
> > > (or even that times have changed) and they keep doing the wrong
> > > thing.
> > >
> > > do the right thing!
> > >
> > >> I spent some time going through the PHP site looking at the
> > list of hosts
> > >> supporting PHP, but I didn't find any real discussion about
> > what people want
> > >> in a host (although I did find plenty of things they
> don't want :).
> > >
> > > think about what you want in support from your vendors. support
> > is support.
> > > even monkeys can be trained. it takes someone who cares
> to provide
> > > good support.
> > >
> > >> I just figured that I would ask the PHP community exactly what
> > they wanted.
> > >> Thank you for any insight that you can give me.
> > >
> > > well, not much of my knowledge is php related, but what
> the heck :)
> > >
> > >>
> > >> --derek
> > >
> > >
> > > -- mike cullerton
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Kurt,
Believe it or not, I am not receiving any kickback for the referrals. The owner of the company is a friend of mine. I help him out by testing features and such(I did mention this in my post). The guy is one of those who is honestly trying to build the best services he possibly can by making sure he listens to what his customers want. He is a programmer himself and so he understands the issues.
If I made any money from it, I would have made sure to have mentioned it. Like you, I hate those posts from people with suggestions to check something out only to find it a selling job for their own benefit. I honestly think this is what the people in the thread is looking for and was trying to help them out.
My apologies if I did not communicate myself properly and gave you the impression I would trying to mislead/take advantage of anyone.
Jeff Pearson
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kurt Lieber [mailto:phpkirpatrick.com]
> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:25 AM
> To: 'PHP List'
> Subject: RE: [PHP] What would you want in a PHP web host?
>
>
> OK, this bugs me. Jeff -- you're obviously getting a kickback for any
> business you refer to them -- why not mention that in your email so we
> all know you have some financial interest in the company?
>
> --kurt
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jeff Pearson [mailto:jeffpearsonpaymentresource.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 9:00 AM
> > To: Richard Baskett; php-generallists.php.net
> > Subject: RE: [PHP] What would you want in a PHP web host?
> >
> >
> > I am currently working with a hosting company that is
> > striving to attain everything you all have mentioned. Check
> > out http://www.eaccounts.net/ref/jp52950052/referer=emaillink
> >
> > I do the Beta testing for them and have all of my sites
> > hosted there. If there is something missing, let me know and
> > I'll bring it up to them.
> >
> >
> > Jeff Pearson
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Richard Baskett [mailto:rickbasketthome.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 6:00 PM
> > > To: php-generallists.php.net
> > > Subject: Re: [PHP] What would you want in a PHP web host?
> > >
> > >
> > > Please tell me what host you use!! I cant even seem to get
> > the host I
> > > am going through to upgrade php. They'll do it when they
> > feel like is
> > > pretty much the response I get. Other host responses: "We don't
> > > support php or mysql" "Sometime in the future, but currently no
> > > support", "You're the only person that has requested it, so
> > until more
> > > demand, we're not going to support it" Frustrating, frustrating,
> > > frustrating, especially when I feel like it's the wave of
> > the future.
> > > A host that provides everything you've specified... is to die for :)
> > >
> > > So if you have a list... please do tell! :)
> > >
> > > Rick
> > >
> > > > [this is long]
> > > >
> > > > on 8/1/01 1:06 AM, Derek Del Conte at
> > derekgambitdesign.com wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> I have been developing PHP for a while now, and I am wondering
> > > how other
> > > >> developers find their PHP hosting company. So far this has not
> > > >> been an issue for me because I am always in full control of my
> > > >> servers
> > > (well, as
> > > >> much control as possible with any web server :), but recently
> > > we have begun
> > > >> to host other PHP sites.
> > > >
> > > > my background is networking. i've built and maintained a
> > number of
> > > > increasingly complex networks over the years and at times
> > have been
> > > > intimately involved in the customer support piece. i have had
> > > many jobs in
> > > > the customer support area outside of technology too. now i
> > > write and host
> > > > php apps.
> > > >
> > > >> We want to make sure that we are providing appropriate support
> > > to our PHP
> > > >> developers. I see too many hosting companies saying that they
> > > support PHP,
> > > >> but not having anyone familiar with PHP on hand. We want to
> > > have actual
> > > >> support, a developer to call when you have a PHP issue.
> > > >
> > > > do you _really_ want to pay someone 24x7x365 to maintain a php
> > > help line?
> > > > the best coding happens outside the 9-5 window.
> > > >
> > > > the way i see it, as a php hosting site, your job is to keep
> > > the servers up
> > > > and running, 24x7x365, bug-free and up-to-date. php support is
> > > for software
> > > > consultants (which isn't to say that you can't do both) folks who
> > > > need hosting want realiable hosting.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> What do you think a medium sized hosting company could do to
> > > give you (the
> > > >> developer) better service and support?
> > > >
> > > > honesty, reliability, communication, response, bandwidth.
> > > >
> > > >> Is access to professional PHP developers useful when an issue
> > > >> arises?
> > > >
> > > > i doubt it, but imagine you could come up with a business
> > model for
> > > > providing php development support. probably long term stuff.
> > > maybe write and
> > > > maintain an application for someone, or possibly training...
> > > >
> > > > i would think of hosting and consulting as separate symbiotic
> > > businesses.
> > > > you'll get some referral business and a little cross-over, but
> > > don't expect
> > > > most hosting customers to want support or for folks
> > who've used you
> > > > to consult on a project to host their app with you.
> > > >
> > > >> Are hosting companies reluctant to give you more access rights?
> > > >
> > > > if they say 'no', does their reason atleast seem reasonable? are
> > > > they willing to think about it and get back to you? do they say
> > > 'yes' when they
> > > > should be saying 'yes'?
> > > >
> > > >> Are they willing to re-compile their PHP build to add other
> > > >> options?
> > > >
> > > > as someone else has said, all options. php hosting should be
> > > php hosting.
> > > >
> > > > caveat--if there are some options that most folks would
> > reasonably
> > > > call 'optional' or 'dangerous', these shouldn't be expected. i am
> > > pretty new at
> > > > programming and php, so i have no idea if things like
> > this exist. i
> > > > personally only compile in the options i use.
> > > >
> > > >> How long do requested changes to the server take?
> > > >
> > > > unreasonable delays are unacceptable. i mean, if you can get it
> > > done, do it.
> > > > these are our customers. they are giving us money :)
> > > >
> > > > you (or your server dude(ette)) should be as excited as your
> > > customer is for
> > > > the new features. you should be saying "whoa, i can't believe
> > > that's not in
> > > > there. hold on... ... ... ok, try it now. it works? cool, have
> > > a good one.
> > > > <click>" :)
> > > >
> > > > (obviously, don't do anything to your box you don't
> > understand, and
> > > > security, security, security, but you get the picture)
> > > >
> > > >> What other suggestions do you have for improving the
> > > relationship between
> > > >> the server administrator and the PHP developer?
> > > >
> > > > do the right thing!
> > > >
> > > > i've been on both sides of this (positive and negative :)
> > tell your
> > > > customers everything you know. make it easy for them to obtain
> > > any and all
> > > > reasonable information 24 hours a day. anticipate customer
> > > needs. constantly
> > > > re-evaluate all of your policies and let your customers know them.
> > > >
> > > > your business should constantly evolve to your changing
> > > customer base. when
> > > > a customer makes a request for something you haven't considered,
> > > > your response should be "hmmm..., that's interesting. let us talk
> > > about that a
> > > > little and get back to you". and then, slap yourself for
> > not having
> > > > anticipated the request, talk about it and get back to them. keep
> > > > them informed.
> > > >
> > > > the successful enterprises i've been involved with cared
> > about their
> > > > customers, educated themselves about their endeavor and did the
> > > right thing.
> > > > too many businesses make decisions for the wrong
> > reasons--political
> > > > infighting, process management, knee-jerk reaction, unmotivated
> > > employee,
> > > > you name it. when a question arises, folks need to openly
> > discuss it
> > > > and come to concensus. too many folks can't admit they might not
> > > know something
> > > > (or even that times have changed) and they keep doing the wrong
> > > > thing.
> > > >
> > > > do the right thing!
> > > >
> > > >> I spent some time going through the PHP site looking at the
> > > list of hosts
> > > >> supporting PHP, but I didn't find any real discussion about
> > > what people want
> > > >> in a host (although I did find plenty of things they
> > don't want :).
> > > >
> > > > think about what you want in support from your vendors. support
> > > is support.
> > > > even monkeys can be trained. it takes someone who cares
> > to provide
> > > > good support.
> > > >
> > > >> I just figured that I would ask the PHP community exactly what
> > > they wanted.
> > > >> Thank you for any insight that you can give me.
> > > >
> > > > well, not much of my knowledge is php related, but what
> > the heck :)
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> --derek
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -- mike cullerton
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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On 02-Aug-2001 Frédéric Mériot wrote: > Thanks a lot, but I must precise that I'm running PHP (4.0.6) under NT2000 > (client not server) platform. > 'fr_FR.ISO_8859-1' does not work too. > > So, it's not very important, but where can I find the entire list of > countries with their ISO code? >
It's not an exact country = locale assignment.
language_dialect.characterset
de_DE.DIS_8859-15 Deutsch (as used in Germany) in the DIS_8859-15 charset. de_CH.ISO_8859-2 Deutsch ( Swiss dialect) in a ISO_8859-2 charset.
---
On Unix boxes the supported locales are usually in /usr/local/share/locale.
For Windows, a search on Google turned up: http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/FAQs/Locales.asp
My regards,
-- Don Read dread
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>perfect solution but it would help if there were some degree of self >selecting behavior possible. Currenty all questions go to php-general. If >there were, say, a php-newuser and a php-questions list then perhaps >php-general could be used for slightly higher level discussions. Actually >its probably too late to "save" php-general, hard to get people to >change. Maybe a new list that caters to a higher level of discussion, say >php-authoring or the like? > >Just a thought. So much tends to get lost or over looked in high volume >mailing lists.
Agreed. Seen it happen quite often.. a special newbie list is created.. that list become a very very low volume list and the other lists are still getting everything.. why? dunno.. convinient?? the people with more knowledge then others stay away??
I'm still thinking about an solution.... Perhaps another description about the mailinglists.. Telling more about the archive.. Or a solutions database for common problems.. but I think this kind of info is already available on other websites.. Some procmail rules to make an autoreply giving some solutions which depend on certain words in the message.. That might certainly help.. but it's a daunting task to make such a beast..
And please.. leave my name out of the subject.. it has been yelled on this list more then enough.
Bye,
B.
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When on mailing lists such discussion get longer and longer, like 'Attitude of B van Ouwerkerk', I always remember of this email. Could everyone give a moment of thought and get back to the purpose of this list? I know that this includes myself too, which I apologize for my behavior:
Q: How many mailing list subscribers does it take to change a light bulb? A: Thousands! 1 to change the light bulb and post to the list that the light bulb has been changed. 14 to share similar experiences of changing light bulbs and how the light bulb could have been changed differently. 7 to caution about the dangers of changing light bulbs. 27 to point out spelling and grammatical errors in posts about changing light bulbs. 53 to flame the spell checkers. 156 to write to the list administrator complaining about the light bulb discussion and its inappropriateness to this mail list. 41 to correct spelling in the spelling/grammar flames. 109 to post that this list is not about light bulbs and would they kindly take this email exchange to alt.lite.bulb. 203 to demand that cross posting to alt.grammar, alt.spelling and alt.punctuation about changing light bulbs be stopped. 111 to defend the posting to this list saying that we all use light bulbs and therefore the posts **are** relevant to this mail list. 306 to debate which method of changing light bulbs is superior, where to buy the best light bulbs, what brand of light bulbs work best for this technique, and what brands are faulty. 27 to post URLs where one can see examples of different light bulbs. 14 to post that the URLs were posted incorrectly, and to ask for corrected URLs. 3 to post about links they found from the URLs that are relevant to this list which makes light bulbs relevant to this list. 33 to summarize all posts to date, then quote them including all headers and footers, and then add "Me Too." 12 to post to the list that they are unsubscribing because they cannot handle the light bulb controversy. 19 to quote the "Me Too's" to say, "Me Three." 4 to suggest that posters request the light bulb FAQ. 1 to propose new alt.change.lite.bulb newsgroup. 47 to say this is just what alt.physic.cold_fusion was meant for, so leave it there. 143 votes for alt.lite.bulb. 27 to post in HTML because they are using the IE or Netscape that had it turned on by default and are too clueless to look. 48 to complain about the HTML posts. 27 to post 'sorry I didn't realize it was on' -- in HTML. 96 to complain about more HTML and post detailed instructions on how to change the setting. 58 to mumble something about using a web browser to read mail. 12 MIME posts with useless colors and bolds saying thanks for the help with the HTML mail. 1 to post a GIF/JPG of the lightbulb hanging too close to his digital camera. 58 to complain about the binary post. 14 to say they liked the binary and didn't mind it. 1 post about how you can M*A*K*E M*O*N*E*Y FA$T!!!!! by selling lightbulbs and this report available for only $5. 1328 to reply to the list with the full spam attached and then put 'remove' at the end. 3 to flame the other morons for replying to the spammer and CC'ing the list. 1 from the list admin notifying that the list is looking for a bigger server to handle the load.
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lol, hmmm Where does this post fit on the list...
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Hello,
How does one do the trick of hiding a folder's directory listing from a public browser?
i.e. Lets say the full address is www.mysite.com/php/magicphppage.php
Well I still need some other files to read and write to magicphppage.php I don't want the public to be able to simply type www.mysite.com/php/ and have all of my php files show up on a funky "virtual directory".
Thanks, Marcus
-- Marcus James Christian - UNLIMITED - Multimedia Internet Design http://mjchristianunlimited.comProudly presents the music of CHROMATICUS at http://chromaticus.com and http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/275/chromaticus.html
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i dont know if this is elagant but ti works. but a fake index.htmlin your directory for browsers to default to. . ..
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marcus James Christian" <marcusmjchristianunlimited.com>
To: <php-generallists.php.net>
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 12:30 AM
Subject: [PHP] Q: Hiding Folder Directories from public while still...
> Hello,
>
> How does one do the trick of hiding a folder's directory listing from a
> public browser?
>
> i.e. Lets say the full address is www.mysite.com/php/magicphppage.php
>
> Well I still need some other files to read and write to
> magicphppage.php I don't want the public to be able to simply type
> www.mysite.com/php/ and have all of my php files show up on a funky
> "virtual directory".
>
> Thanks,
> Marcus
>
> --
> Marcus James Christian - UNLIMITED -
> Multimedia Internet Design
> http://mjchristianunlimited.com
>
> Proudly presents the music of CHROMATICUS
> at http://chromaticus.com
> and http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/275/chromaticus.html
>
>
>
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if you're using apache, there's a *much* easier/secure way of doing this.
setup an .htaccess file to restrict access to certain username/passwords.
check out both: man htaccess man htpasswd
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jon Yaggie [mailto:dmsalesdesign-monster.com]
> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 1:34 PM
> To: php-generallists.php.net
> Subject: Re: [PHP] Q: Hiding Folder Directories from public while
> still...
>
>
> i dont know if this is elagant but ti works. but a fake index.htmlin your
> directory for browsers to default to. . ..
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Marcus James Christian" <marcusmjchristianunlimited.com>
> To: <php-generallists.php.net>
> Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 12:30 AM
> Subject: [PHP] Q: Hiding Folder Directories from public while still...
>
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > How does one do the trick of hiding a folder's directory listing from a
> > public browser?
> >
> > i.e. Lets say the full address is www.mysite.com/php/magicphppage.php
> >
> > Well I still need some other files to read and write to
> > magicphppage.php I don't want the public to be able to simply type
> > www.mysite.com/php/ and have all of my php files show up on a funky
> > "virtual directory".
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Marcus
> >
> > --
> > Marcus James Christian - UNLIMITED -
> > Multimedia Internet Design
> > http://mjchristianunlimited.com
> >
> > Proudly presents the music of CHROMATICUS
> > at http://chromaticus.com
> > and http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/275/chromaticus.html
> >
> >
> >
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dont knwo if ti easier but much better yes . . .
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From: "scott [gts]" <scottgraphictype.com>
To: "php" <php-generallists.php.net>
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 12:38 AM
Subject: RE: [PHP] Q: Hiding Folder Directories from public while still...
> if you're using apache, there's a *much* easier/secure way
> of doing this.
>
> setup an .htaccess file to restrict access to certain
> username/passwords.
>
> check out both:
> man htaccess
> man htpasswd
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jon Yaggie [mailto:dmsalesdesign-monster.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 1:34 PM
> > To: php-generallists.php.net
> > Subject: Re: [PHP] Q: Hiding Folder Directories from public while
> > still...
> >
> >
> > i dont know if this is elagant but ti works. but a fake index.htmlin
your
> > directory for browsers to default to. . ..
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Marcus James Christian" <marcusmjchristianunlimited.com>
> > To: <php-generallists.php.net>
> > Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 12:30 AM
> > Subject: [PHP] Q: Hiding Folder Directories from public while still...
> >
> >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > How does one do the trick of hiding a folder's directory listing from
a
> > > public browser?
> > >
> > > i.e. Lets say the full address is
www.mysite.com/php/magicphppage.php
> > >
> > > Well I still need some other files to read and write to
> > > magicphppage.php I don't want the public to be able to simply type
> > > www.mysite.com/php/ and have all of my php files show up on a
funky
> > > "virtual directory".
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Marcus
> > >
> > > --
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> > > http://mjchristianunlimited.com
> > >
> > > Proudly presents the music of CHROMATICUS
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> > >
> > >
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At 10:23 2-8-01 -0400, Tim wrote: >I hereby nominate Kyle as the official George W. Bush of the PHP General >mailing list. Anyone second it?
I do.
Wanne setup a voting site for this ;)
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WHY AM I GEORGE BUSH!!!!!?!?!?
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From: "B. van Ouwerkerk" <bvoatz.nl>
To: "Tim" <infozearthlink.net>; <php-generallists.php.net>
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:27 AM
Subject: Re: [PHP] Adopt A Newbie (ME)
> At 10:23 2-8-01 -0400, Tim wrote:
> >I hereby nominate Kyle as the official George W. Bush of the PHP General
> >mailing list. Anyone second it?
>
> I do.
>
> Wanne setup a voting site for this ;)
>
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Because you've asked an incredible amount of questions, 99% of which you could have solved on your own had you taken some time to look around, IMO abused this wonderful list, demanded answers which, if given, would "make you post less", something you "wouldn't like",and have in general pissed off many people on this list, including me...
-----Original Message-----
From: Kyle Smith [mailto:dbzno1fanhotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:59 PM
To: php-generallists.php.net
Subject: Re: [PHP] Adopt A Newbie (ME)
WHY AM I GEORGE BUSH!!!!!?!?!?
-lk6- http://www.StupeedStudios.f2s.com Home of the burning lego man!
ICQ: 115852509
MSN: dbzno1fanhotmail.com
AIM: legokiller666
----- Original Message -----
From: "B. van Ouwerkerk" <bvoatz.nl>
To: "Tim" <infozearthlink.net>; <php-generallists.php.net>
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:27 AM
Subject: Re: [PHP] Adopt A Newbie (ME)
> At 10:23 2-8-01 -0400, Tim wrote:
> >I hereby nominate Kyle as the official George W. Bush of the PHP
General
> >mailing list. Anyone second it?
>
> I do.
>
> Wanne setup a voting site for this ;)
>
>
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...And if all else fails, try www.webmonkey.com, devshed.com or search for 'mysql tutorials' on google.com.
If you need a desktop reference, then I recommend the following books:
'MySQL and mSQL' -- by O'Reilly
'PHP Professionals'--published by WROX.
__________John Monfort_________________ _+-----------------------------------+_ P E P I E D E S I G N S www.pepiedesigns.com "The world is waiting, are you ready?" -+___________________________________+-
On Thu, 2 Aug 2001, Werner Stuerenburg wrote:
>
>
> Kyle Smith schrieb am Donnerstag, 2. August 2001, 22:36:57:
>
> > Ok, im trying to cut down on the posts here but this time im really stuck, so could somebody guide me through the usage of mySQL and PHP and show me how to input data into a mySQL database and read
> > it, or just redirect me to another page (which is what normally happens)
>
> > NOTE: i am using phpMyAdmin
>
> Fine. There is a readme. You have to insert your secret data into
> config.inc.php so that phpMyAdmin can connect. If it does, there
> are forms to put your stuff into and then: click the Go button.
> You can't go wrong with this.
>
>
>
> --
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Kyle Smith wrote: > WHY AM I GEORGE BUSH!!!!!?!?!?
Who cares what others think, just ignore them. No doubt you've learned some things in the past 24 hours, let's leave it at that.
Regards, Philip
>
>
> -lk6-
> http://www.StupeedStudios.f2s.com
> Home of the burning lego man!
>
> ICQ: 115852509
> MSN: dbzno1fanhotmail.com
> AIM: legokiller666
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "B. van Ouwerkerk" <bvoatz.nl>
> To: "Tim" <infozearthlink.net>; <php-generallists.php.net>
> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:27 AM
> Subject: Re: [PHP] Adopt A Newbie (ME)
>
>
> > At 10:23 2-8-01 -0400, Tim wrote:
> > >I hereby nominate Kyle as the official George W. Bush of the PHP
> > >General
> > >mailing list. Anyone second it?
> >
> > I do.
> >
> > Wanne setup a voting site for this ;)
> >
> >
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Personally, he reminds me of JEFF K! with better spelling and a firm grip on the use of the Caps Lock key.
J
Tim wrote:
> I hereby nominate Kyle as the official George W. Bush of the PHP General > mailing list. Anyone second it? > > - Tim
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On Thu, 2 Aug 2001 23:53, Tim wrote:
> I hereby nominate Kyle as the official George W. Bush of the PHP
> General mailing list. Anyone second it?
>
> - Tim
>
> On 02 Aug 2001 15:07:49 -0700, Kyle Smith wrote:
> > zillion is actually a number? i just downloaded a program which reads
> > out text for you cause it just gets really boring reading the text,
> > so now its goinfg to be like having a techer in the room....... you
> > got a gun?
> >
> >
> > -lk6-
> > http://www.StupeedStudios.f2s.com
> > Home of the burning lego man!
> >
> > ICQ: 115852509
> > MSN: dbzno1fanhotmail.com
> > AIM: legokiller666
Not only do I second it, but I've decided to give him first place in my procmailrc :-)
-- David Robley Techno-JoaT, Web Maintainer, Mail List Admin, etc CENTRE FOR INJURY STUDIES Flinders University, SOUTH AUSTRALIAOne if by LAN, two if by C.
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He's young. Impatience is a documented feature of the youth of today (hmmm, am I old now ;( )
I've was helping him offlist with php/mysql yesterday - he seems to have it installed now. All he needs to do now is learn php, and mysql, and courtesy.
Shouldn't take more than another thousand or two messages on the list...
-----Original Message-----
From: David Robley [mailto:huntsmanwww.nisu.flinders.edu.au]
Sent: August 3, 2001 8:54 AM
To: Tim; php-generallists.php.net
Subject: Re: [PHP] Adopt A Newbie (ME)
On Thu, 2 Aug 2001 23:53, Tim wrote:
> I hereby nominate Kyle as the official George W. Bush of the PHP
> General mailing list. Anyone second it?
>
> - Tim
>
> On 02 Aug 2001 15:07:49 -0700, Kyle Smith wrote:
> > zillion is actually a number? i just downloaded a program which reads
> > out text for you cause it just gets really boring reading the text,
> > so now its goinfg to be like having a techer in the room....... you
> > got a gun?
> >
> >
> > -lk6-
> > http://www.StupeedStudios.f2s.com
> > Home of the burning lego man!
> >
> > ICQ: 115852509
> > MSN: dbzno1fanhotmail.com
> > AIM: legokiller666
Not only do I second it, but I've decided to give him first place in my procmailrc :-)
-- David Robley Techno-JoaT, Web Maintainer, Mail List Admin, etc CENTRE FOR INJURY STUDIES Flinders University, SOUTH AUSTRALIAOne if by LAN, two if by C.
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HI I don't know why you are like G.Bush. But I have a vision that formed while scanning some of the lists recent postings. I see a man shoveling snow, again, from the sidewalk. While this is going on a kid is running around building a snow man, making a fort, throwing snow balls, hollering at friends, in general, having fun. Keep the fun going as long as you can. If you get good enough, you can hire someone else to do the shoveling.
Good Luck...
>WHY AM I GEORGE BUSH!!!!!?!?!?
>
>
>-lk6-
>http://www.StupeedStudios.f2s.com
>Home of the burning lego man!
>
>ICQ: 115852509
>MSN: dbzno1fanhotmail.com
>AIM: legokiller666
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "B. van Ouwerkerk" <bvoatz.nl>
>To: "Tim" <infozearthlink.net>; <php-generallists.php.net>
>Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:27 AM
>Subject: Re: [PHP] Adopt A Newbie (ME)
>
>
>> At 10:23 2-8-01 -0400, Tim wrote:
>> >I hereby nominate Kyle as the official George W. Bush of the PHP General
>> >mailing list. Anyone second it?
>>
>> I do.
>>
>> Wanne setup a voting site for this ;)
>>
>>
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I'm trying to clean up a bunch of code on our website and was wondering if there was a best practice on using ocilogoff and/or ocifreestatement. We have a lot of queries within functions that have many multiple exit points. For some reason, I'm feeling like it's sloppy to have ocilogoff() and ocifreestatement() in 6 different places where the function exits. How do other people use these?
Thanks, Mike
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I was just looking through the mailing list archives for some help with my gettext problem (basically, I can't get it to work).
Anyway, I came across your post:
> Thanks for the reply. This will not solve my problem. The problem is, for some > languages the sentence structure may be different. For example, the sentence > may need to be, > $greeting = "$first_name, welcome!" > as opposed to, > $greeting = "Welcome, $first_name!"
This can be handled by gettext. Change your english code to something like:
$greeting = sprintf( gettext("Welcome, %s!"), $first_name );
Once you run xgettext to extract all the strings, you'll end up with
msgid "Welcome, %s!" msgstr ""
So just convert it into whatever language, and move the "%s" as needed, eg:
msgstr "%s, bonjour!"
This even works with multiple "%s"'s, in later versions of PHP where you can rearrange the arguments in the format string, but not the way they are passed to sprintf():
msgid "%s is %d years old" msgstr "$2%d Jahrs habe $1%s"
Check www.php.net/sprintf for details.
Hope that helps.
- Colin
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(I posted this on php.i18n, but I'm hoping that the bigger audience here might get me an answer sooner).
Okay, here is what I've done:
I have a file /www/test.php:
<? putenv('LANG=en'); setlocale(LC_ALL, ''); bindtextdomain("messages", "./locale"); textdomain("messages");
echo _("Hello world."); ?>
I then do:
xgettext --keyword=_ -C /www/test.php
This makes "messages.po" which looks like:
# SOME DESCRIPTIVE TITLE.
# Copyright (C) YEAR Free Software Foundation, Inc.
# FIRST AUTHOR <EMAILADDRESS>, YEAR.
#
#, fuzzy
msgid ""
msgstr ""
"Project-Id-Version: PACKAGE VERSION\n"
"POT-Creation-Date: 2001-08-01 17:13-0400\n"
"PO-Revision-Date: YEAR-MO-DA HO:MI+ZONE\n"
"Last-Translator: FULL NAME <EMAILADDRESS>\n"
"Language-Team: LANGUAGE <LLli.org>\n"
"MIME-Version: 1.0\n"
"Content-Type: text/plain; charset=CHARSET\n"
"Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit\n"
#: /www/test.php:9 msgid "Hello world." msgstr ""
I then do:
mkdir /www/locale/fr mkdir /www/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES cp messages.po /www/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES
I then edit that messages.po so it reads:
msgid "Hello world." msgstr "Bonjour monde."
Then:
msgfmt /www/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES/messages.po -o /www/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES/messages.mo
I then check the test.php file in a browser: it's in english.
I edit test.php to read:
<? putenv('LANG=fr'); /* <<< changed here */ setlocale(LC_ALL, ''); bindtextdomain("messages", "./locale"); textdomain("messages");
echo _("Hello world."); ?>
Reload in a browser, and it's still english. What am I missing?!?!
- Colin
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On which system?
You can fined for Win9x an Nt/2000 a lot of usefull info there: http://benoit.noss.free.fr/php/install-php.html
If like me you use 2000 you will save a lot of trouble by changing the way you are making the file association for php files. You need to have the shell->open->command directly under the .php key in the registry.
Hope it's help
R.
"Herman Tolentino" <hermanti-manila.com.ph> wrote in message
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Dear folks,
Any body there with experience setting up Netscape Enterprise Web Server with PHP as CGI binary. I need to know how to configure Netscape Web Server.
TIA,
Herman Tolentino
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From: "R." <registerlibertysurf.fr>
To: <php-generallists.php.net>
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 11:07 AM
Subject: [PHP] Re: Netscape Enterprise Server
> On which system?
>
> You can fined for Win9x an Nt/2000 a lot of usefull info there:
> http://benoit.noss.free.fr/php/install-php.html
>
> If like me you use 2000 you will save a lot of trouble by changing the way
> you are making the file association for php files. You need to have the
> shell->open->command directly under the .php key in the registry.
>
> Hope it's help
>
> R.
>
> "Herman Tolentino" <hermanti-manila.com.ph> wrote in message
> news:000e01c11bcb$2ae75800$3300a8c0tridel.net...
> Dear folks,
>
> Any body there with experience setting up Netscape Enterprise Web Server
> with PHP as CGI binary. I need to know how to configure Netscape Web
Server.
>
> TIA,
>
> Herman Tolentino
>
>
>
>
>
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Sorry I missed the important detail: Solaris Sparc (2.6). I already saw the
site you mentioned. Thanks.
----- Original Message -----
From: "R." <registerlibertysurf.fr>
To: <php-generallists.php.net>
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 11:07 AM
Subject: [PHP] Re: Netscape Enterprise Server
> On which system?
>
> You can fined for Win9x an Nt/2000 a lot of usefull info there:
> http://benoit.noss.free.fr/php/install-php.html
>
> If like me you use 2000 you will save a lot of trouble by changing the way
> you are making the file association for php files. You need to have the
> shell->open->command directly under the .php key in the registry.
>
> Hope it's help
>
> R.
>
> "Herman Tolentino" <hermanti-manila.com.ph> wrote in message
> news:000e01c11bcb$2ae75800$3300a8c0tridel.net...
> Dear folks,
>
> Any body there with experience setting up Netscape Enterprise Web Server
> with PHP as CGI binary. I need to know how to configure Netscape Web
Server.
>
> TIA,
>
> Herman Tolentino
>
>
>
>
>
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Ok, I'm trying to seperate my php from my html.... the method I've been trying to use is like so:
$html = fread(fopen("htmlpage.html", "r"), filesize("htmlpage.html")); print $html;
This works perfectly fine, except if I want to use a variable....
lets say that my htmlpage.html includes the following:
<CENTER><H2>Hello! Your variable has a value of: $myvar</H2></CENTER>
and my test.php file is as follows:
<?php $myvar = "It works!"; $html = fread(fopen("htmlpage.html", "r"), filesize("htmlpage.html")); print $html; ?>
I would expect the output to be:
Hello! Your variable has a value of: It works!
but what I get is:
Hello! Your variable has a value of: $myvar
any hints/tips/suggestions? Is there another way that I should be doing this?
thanks!
Jason
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I would seriously suggest you take a good look at Smarty at http://www.phpinsider.com/php/code/Smarty/
Don't re-invent the wheel.
-Rasmus
On Thu, 2 Aug 2001, Jason Bell wrote:
> Ok, I'm trying to seperate my php from my html.... the method I've been > trying to use is like so: > > $html = fread(fopen("htmlpage.html", "r"), filesize("htmlpage.html")); > print $html; > > > This works perfectly fine, except if I want to use a variable.... > > lets say that my htmlpage.html includes the following: > > <CENTER><H2>Hello! Your variable has a value of: $myvar</H2></CENTER> > > and my test.php file is as follows: > > <?php > $myvar = "It works!"; > $html = fread(fopen("htmlpage.html", "r"), filesize("htmlpage.html")); > print $html; > ?> > > I would expect the output to be: > > Hello! Your variable has a value of: It works! > > but what I get is: > > Hello! Your variable has a value of: $myvar > > > any hints/tips/suggestions? Is there another way that I should be doing > this? > > thanks! > > Jason > > > > >
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Didn't want to if I didn't have to. :) Thanks for the link. I assumed there was something out there for this....
"Rasmus Lerdorf" <rasmusphp.net> wrote in message
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> I would seriously suggest you take a good look at Smarty at
> http://www.phpinsider.com/php/code/Smarty/
>
> Don't re-invent the wheel.
>
> -Rasmus
>
> On Thu, 2 Aug 2001, Jason Bell wrote:
>
> > Ok, I'm trying to seperate my php from my html.... the method I've been
> > trying to use is like so:
> >
> > $html = fread(fopen("htmlpage.html", "r"), filesize("htmlpage.html"));
> > print $html;
> >
> >
> > This works perfectly fine, except if I want to use a variable....
> >
> > lets say that my htmlpage.html includes the following:
> >
> > <CENTER><H2>Hello! Your variable has a value of: $myvar</H2></CENTER>
> >
> > and my test.php file is as follows:
> >
> > <?php
> > $myvar = "It works!";
> > $html = fread(fopen("htmlpage.html", "r"), filesize("htmlpage.html"));
> > print $html;
> > ?>
> >
> > I would expect the output to be:
> >
> > Hello! Your variable has a value of: It works!
> >
> > but what I get is:
> >
> > Hello! Your variable has a value of: $myvar
> >
> >
> > any hints/tips/suggestions? Is there another way that I should be doing
> > this?
> >
> > thanks!
> >
> > Jason
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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I'm still trying to compress an entire directory on a linux server to be decompressed probably in windows client. I'm trying to use exec command and tar (compressor for linux), but I don't know how to do it. Can anybody pleeeaase help me?
I know I should test these, but sending a message is easier. :) If a connect the server using ftp_connect and ftp_login, when I try to create a directory using mkdir or ftp_mkdir or a file using fopen, will they belong to me or to nobody???
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try using this syntax:
'tar cvzf name.tgz directory/'
here's a breakdown of the syntax
tar c = create new archive v = verbose (lists all files added as they are added) z = filter thru gzip f = filename of archive
tar by itself does not compress archives. you have to either specify the "z" or filter the .tar file thru a compressing program.
if you have Winzip, you're set... winzip understands tar/gz files and opens them just like they're regular zip files.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eduardo Kokubo [mailto:kokuboinf.univali.br]
> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 2:35 PM
> To: php-generallists.php.net
> Cc: Eduardo Kokubo
> Subject: [PHP] php
>
>
> I'm still trying to compress an entire directory on a linux server to be
> decompressed probably in windows client. I'm trying to use exec command
> and tar (compressor for linux), but I don't know how to do it. Can anybody
> pleeeaase help me?
>
>
> I know I should test these, but sending a message is easier. :)
> If a connect the server using ftp_connect and ftp_login, when I try to
> create a directory using mkdir or ftp_mkdir or a file using fopen, will
> they belong to me or to nobody???
>
>
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The Virtual() command works on my hosting server, I am running windows, idigostart perl/apache with php4 installed, how do I get this virtual() command to work on my machine, I assumed that the php4 I had installed was an apache module.
I have .shtml pages using includes for html, and "exec cgi" for executing .cgi scripts, as I am using php more and more is there an advantage in me changing my .shtml pages to php and use the equivalent include, and virtual commands ?? But I do need somehow to be able to use the virtual() command on my machine so that I can develop my scripts.
Dave
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Hello, I need to convert an application that run on mysql to an oracle database. The application strickly use the db_mysql class from phplib. Can anyone suggest me another class and maybe common pitfalls to avoid ?
Thank you,
py
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pierre-yves schrieb am Donnerstag, 2. August 2001, 21:50:55:
> Hello, > I need to convert an application that run on mysql to an oracle database. The application strickly use the db_mysql class > from phplib. Can anyone suggest me another class and maybe common pitfalls to avoid ?
As far as I understand the idea behind PHPLIB, you should be off by exchanging the class db_mysql to db_oracle
From the manual http://phplib.netuse.de/documentation/documentation-2.html#ss2.1
You must change prepend.php3 to reflect the database interface that you are using: Change the require statement for db_mysql.inc appropriately.
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Thanks everybody, and Sam, that makes sense WRT the multiple words causing troubles.
On Wed, 1 Aug 2001 12:54:01 -0400, Sam Masiello wrote:
>
>You will need to put single quotes around your variables in your SQL
>statement. Like this:
>
>$sql = "UPDATE TABLE seminar SET
>title='$title',speaker='$speaker',event_date='$tdate',time='$time',bldg='$bu
>ilding'
>,rm='$room' WHERE id='$id'";
>
>Without the quotes, SQL doesn't know that Something Amazing is supposed to
>go together in the same string.
>
>HTH
>
>Sam Masiello
>Software Quality Assurance Engineer
>Synacor
>(716) 853-1362 x289
>smasiellosynacor.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
>From: Chris Worth [mailto:cawbcc.louisville.edu]
>Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 12:36 PM
>To: php-generallists.php.net
>Subject: [PHP] SQL syntax error in PHP script. dunno what's wrong
>
>
>
>hey gang.
>
>here is my sql statement from my php script.
>
>$sql = "UPDATE TABLE seminar SET
>title=$title,speaker=$speaker,event_date=$tdate,time=$time,bldg=$building
>,rm=$room WHERE id=$id";
>
>
>it appears just like that in my code.
>
>here is the $sql string echoed to the screen to verify the variables.
>
>
>UPDATE TABLE seminar SET title=Something amazing,speaker=Mr.
>Black,event_date=2001-08-05,time=11:00:am,bldg=BCC ,rm=201 WHERE id=48
>
>all of the variable are valid.
>
>here is my error.
>
>1064: You have an error in your SQL syntax near 'TABLE seminar SET
>title=Something
>amazing,speaker=Mr.
>Black,event_date=2001-08' at line 1
>
>I'm baffled.
>
>
>and I couldn't find error 1064 in the mysql manual.pdf either.
>
>any ideas. I know this is going to turn out to be something silly.
>
>thanks,
>
>chris
>
>
>
>
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I have a string can look like either of the following: <p>some stuff</p> <p align = "left">some stuff</p>
I want to use eregi_replace to take out the first p tag whether it be <p> or <p align......> with a space
I assumed that $str = eregi_replace ("<p.*>", " ",$str); but it matches the entire string and thus turns the whole string into one space. aparently regex will match the biggest possible match rather than the smallest my question is how do i get it to match the smallest.
thanx in advance..
Julian
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Try $str = preg_replace("<p.*?>", " ",$str);
jack
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From: Julian Simpson [mailto:frithjhome.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 5:16 PM
To: php-generallists.php.net
Subject: [PHP] another REGEX question
I have a string can look like either of the following: <p>some stuff</p> <p align = "left">some stuff</p>
I want to use eregi_replace to take out the first p tag whether it be <p> or <p align......> with a space
I assumed that $str = eregi_replace ("<p.*>", " ",$str); but it matches the entire string and thus turns the whole string into one space. aparently regex will match the biggest possible match rather than the smallest my question is how do i get it to match the smallest.
thanx in advance..
Julian
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At 5:19 PM -0400 8/2/01, Jack Dempsey wrote: >Try >$str = preg_replace("<p.*?>", " ",$str); > >jack
Or $str = eregi_replace('<p[^>]*>', ' ', $str);
This matches <p (or <P), followed by any character string that DOESN'T include a >, then the trailing >.
Preg functions are faster, though. And, if you're interested in little speed tweaks, use single quotes - ' - rather than double quotes - " - here. With double quotes, PHP searches the quoted string for variables or escape characters to replace.
-steve
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Julian Simpson [mailto:frithjhome.com]
>Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 5:16 PM
>To: php-generallists.php.net
>Subject: [PHP] another REGEX question
>
>I have a string can look like either of the following:
><p>some stuff</p>
><p align = "left">some stuff</p>
>
>I want to use eregi_replace to take out the first p tag whether it be
><p> or <p align......> with a space
>
>I assumed that $str = eregi_replace ("<p.*>", " ",$str);
>but it matches the entire string and thus turns the whole string into
>one space.
>aparently regex will match the biggest possible match rather than the
>smallest
>my question is how do i get it to match the smallest.
>
>thanx in advance..
>
>Julian
>
-- +------ Factoid: Of the 100 largest economies in the world, 51 are ------+ | Steve Edberg University of California, Davis | | sbedberg
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hahah that had two interesting effects the first was that it left the < > and the second was that it turned off all the highlighting in my editor due to the "?>"
any idea how to include the braces in the match and perhaps not using the ?> string for the sake of convenience :)
Julian
8/2/01 5:19:03 PM, "Jack Dempsey" <dabigdemphotmail.com> wrote:
>Try
>$str = preg_replace("<p.*?>", " ",$str);
>
>jack
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Julian Simpson [mailto:frithjhome.com]
>Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 5:16 PM
>To: php-generallists.php.net
>Subject: [PHP] another REGEX question
>
>I have a string can look like either of the following:
><p>some stuff</p>
><p align = "left">some stuff</p>
>
>I want to use eregi_replace to take out the first p tag whether it be
><p> or <p align......> with a space
>
>I assumed that $str = eregi_replace ("<p.*>", " ",$str);
>but it matches the entire string and thus turns the whole string into
>one space.
>aparently regex will match the biggest possible match rather than the
>smallest
>my question is how do i get it to match the smallest.
>
>thanx in advance..
>
>Julian
>
>
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$str = eregi_replace('<p[^>]*>', ' ', $str); worked!
thanx guys
Julian
>At 5:19 PM -0400 8/2/01, Jack Dempsey wrote:
>>Try
>>$str = preg_replace("<p.*?>", " ",$str);
>>
>>jack
>
>
>Or
> $str = eregi_replace('<p[^>]*>', ' ', $str);
>
>This matches <p (or <P), followed by any character string that
>DOESN'T include a >, then the trailing >.
>
>Preg functions are faster, though. And, if you're interested in
>little speed tweaks, use single quotes - ' - rather than double
>quotes - " - here. With double quotes, PHP searches the quoted string
>for variables or escape characters to replace.
>
> -steve
>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Julian Simpson [mailto:frithjhome.com]
>>Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 5:16 PM
>>To: php-generallists.php.net
>>Subject: [PHP] another REGEX question
>>
>>I have a string can look like either of the following:
>><p>some stuff</p>
>><p align = "left">some stuff</p>
>>
>>I want to use eregi_replace to take out the first p tag whether it be
>><p> or <p align......> with a space
>>
>>I assumed that $str = eregi_replace ("<p.*>", " ",$str);
>>but it matches the entire string and thus turns the whole string into
>>one space.
>>aparently regex will match the biggest possible match rather than the
>>smallest
>>my question is how do i get it to match the smallest.
>>
>>thanx in advance..
>>
>>Julian
>>
>
>
>--
>+------ Factoid: Of the 100 largest economies in the world, 51 are ------+
>| Steve Edberg University of California, Davis |
>| sbedbergucdavis.edu Computer Consultant |
>| http://aesric.ucdavis.edu/ http://pgfsun.ucdavis.edu/ |
>+--- corporations ------ http://www.ips-dc.org/reports/top200text.htm ---+
>
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Glad to hear...steve's post was a good one...something else to think about: sometimes people go for the .*? method, and sometimes the [^>]*> way...they give the same results in most cases, but the .*? will match the least amount it can, using the dot...the negation will match anything...so, unless you have the s flag enabled, the . will not match a newline, while the negation will... Just a lil extra info
jack
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From: Julian Simpson [mailto:frithjhome.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 5:42 PM
To: Steve Edberg; php-generallists.php.net
Subject: RE: [PHP] another REGEX question
$str = eregi_replace('<p[^>]*>', ' ', $str); worked!
thanx guys
Julian
>At 5:19 PM -0400 8/2/01, Jack Dempsey wrote:
>>Try
>>$str = preg_replace("<p.*?>", " ",$str);
>>
>>jack
>
>
>Or
> $str = eregi_replace('<p[^>]*>', ' ', $str);
>
>This matches <p (or <P), followed by any character string that
>DOESN'T include a >, then the trailing >.
>
>Preg functions are faster, though. And, if you're interested in
>little speed tweaks, use single quotes - ' - rather than double
>quotes - " - here. With double quotes, PHP searches the quoted string
>for variables or escape characters to replace.
>
> -steve
>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Julian Simpson [mailto:frithjhome.com]
>>Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 5:16 PM
>>To: php-generallists.php.net
>>Subject: [PHP] another REGEX question
>>
>>I have a string can look like either of the following:
>><p>some stuff</p>
>><p align = "left">some stuff</p>
>>
>>I want to use eregi_replace to take out the first p tag whether it be
>><p> or <p align......> with a space
>>
>>I assumed that $str = eregi_replace ("<p.*>", " ",$str);
>>but it matches the entire string and thus turns the whole string into
>>one space.
>>aparently regex will match the biggest possible match rather than the
>>smallest
>>my question is how do i get it to match the smallest.
>>
>>thanx in advance..
>>
>>Julian
>>
>
>
>--
>+------ Factoid: Of the 100 largest economies in the world, 51 are
------+
>| Steve Edberg University of California,
Davis |
>| sbedbergucdavis.edu Computer
Consultant |
>| http://aesric.ucdavis.edu/
http://pgfsun.ucdavis.edu/ |
>+--- corporations ------ http://www.ips-dc.org/reports/top200text.htm
---+
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Hi Julian,
personally, I'd take out both tags, using something like:
$str = preg_replace("/<\/?p.*?>/i", "", $str);
Which gets rid of: <p> <p align="whatever"> </p>
Or any case insensitive matches. That's probably just me though ;)
James.
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> $str = eregi_replace('<p[^>]*>', ' ', $str); worked!
>
> thanx guys
>
> Julian
>
> >At 5:19 PM -0400 8/2/01, Jack Dempsey wrote:
> >>Try
> >>$str = preg_replace("<p.*?>", " ",$str);
> >>
> >>jack
> >
> >
> >Or
> > $str = eregi_replace('<p[^>]*>', ' ', $str);
> >
> >This matches <p (or <P), followed by any character string that
> >DOESN'T include a >, then the trailing >.
> >
> >Preg functions are faster, though. And, if you're interested in
> >little speed tweaks, use single quotes - ' - rather than double
> >quotes - " - here. With double quotes, PHP searches the quoted string
> >for variables or escape characters to replace.
> >
> > -steve
> >
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: Julian Simpson [mailto:frithjhome.com]
> >>Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 5:16 PM
> >>To: php-generallists.php.net
> >>Subject: [PHP] another REGEX question
> >>
> >>I have a string can look like either of the following:
> >><p>some stuff</p>
> >><p align = "left">some stuff</p>
> >>
> >>I want to use eregi_replace to take out the first p tag whether it be
> >><p> or <p align......> with a space
> >>
> >>I assumed that $str = eregi_replace ("<p.*>", " ",$str);
> >>but it matches the entire string and thus turns the whole string into
> >>one space.
> >>aparently regex will match the biggest possible match rather than the
> >>smallest
> >>my question is how do i get it to match the smallest.
> >>
> >>thanx in advance..
> >>
> >>Julian
> >>
> >
> >
> >--
> >+------ Factoid: Of the 100 largest economies in the world, 51
are ------+
> >| Steve Edberg University of California, Davis
|
> >| sbedbergucdavis.edu Computer Consultant
|
> >| http://aesric.ucdavis.edu/ http://pgfsun.ucdavis.edu/
|
> >+--- corporations ------
http://www.ips-dc.org/reports/top200text.htm ---+
> >
>
>
>
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On Wed, 1 Aug 2001 15:13:10 -0500, ceol-i-e.com (Richard Lynch)
wrote:
>> I'm going nuts trying to add a line of data in the beginning of a text
>> file.
>
>Files are like cassette tapes.
>
>You can't add something at the beginning without re-copying everything
>somewhere else first, and then back again.
>
>You should either:
>1. Add to the end, and just make your reader/display program work backwords.
>This only works for small files.
>
>2. Use a database instead.
>
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Hey Richard, thanks a lot. NOW I understood. :)
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4.0.6 apxs warning = E_ALL;
<? switch($search) { case 'date': echo 'date'; break; case 'people': echo 'people'; break; case 'keyword': echo 'keyword'; break; default: echo 'default'; break; } ?>
Warning: Undefined variable: search in /home/httpd/vhosts/mediawaveonline/test2.php on line 4 Warning: Undefined variable: search in /home/httpd/vhosts/mediawaveonline/test2.php on line 7 Warning: Undefined variable: search in /home/httpd/vhosts/mediawaveonline/test2.php on line 10
if you ask me, I should get a warning on line 2 where the switch is, not on 4, 7, 10 where the case statements are.
php 4.0.5 cgi does not do this.
--Chris Lee lee
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Ironically, George W. Bush (a.k.a Kyle Smith) has been sent here by the ASP gods, I think. It must be a punishment.
Tom
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Please everyone, stop talking about this it's getting old. If you have issues with a list member, take it off the list. We, your fellow list members, don't want to hear about it.
Publically making fun of someone isn't cool but rather, it's stupid.
Regards, Philip
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I started to use this command in my soft about 3 months ago and all went well, I've had to do some re-organising and I changed the varable that holds the old image root, to the new image root and ofcouse moved the images, but now my GetImageSize() doesn't work any more,
shows two No's basicaly indicating that GetImageSize is not working
Here is the code:
<? print (" <td width=\"175\" valign=\"top\" align=\"left\"> \n");
if ($Menu_Foto1 != "") { $Photo_Size = GetImageSize ("$GS_Control_Gallery/$Menu_Foto1"); $Photo_Size_W = $Photo_Size[0]; $Photo_Size_H = $Photo_Size[1];
if ($Photo_Size_W > 180) { $Temp_Size1 = ($Photo_Size_W - 180 ); $Temp_Size2 = (180 / $Photo_Size_W); $Photo_Size_W = ($Photo_Size_W - $Temp_Size1); $Photo_Size_H = ($Photo_Size_H * $Temp_Size2); }
print (" <img border=\"0\" src=\"$GS_Control_Gallery/$Menu_Foto1\" width=\"$Photo_Size_W\" height=\"$Photo_Size_H\"> \n"); print (" <br><br> \n");
}
if ($Menu_Text1 != "") { print (" <font size=\"$GS_Text_Font_Size\" face=\"$GS_Text_Font\" color=\"$GS_Text_Colour\">\n");
if ($Menu_Title1 != "") { print (" <b>$Menu_Title1</b><br> \n"); } print (" $Menu_Text1<br> \n"); print (" </font>\n"); print (" <br> \n"); }
if ($Menu_More1 != "") { print (" <i><b><a href=\"$Menu_More1\"><font size=\"$GS_Text_Font_Size\" face=\"$GS_Text_Font\" color=\"$Menu_Link_Colour\">More...</b></font></a></i> \n"); }
print (" </td> \n"); ?>
Just by the piont that you can see the images there means that the image location is correct. So, I dont know...
Can anyone shine any light...
John Hurleston
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> Can anyone shine any light...
It broke in 4.0.5 and was fixed again in 4.0.6
-Rasmus
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Hi,
I got something very odd while trying to run php with java. First, my system specs:
My System: Windows NT4.0 SP6 (same happens on Windows XP) Apache 1.3.20 PHP 4.0.6 Sun Microsystems JDK 1.3.1
Java settings from php.ini: [Java] java.class.path="D:\php406\java\php_java.jar;D:\jdk\lib" java.home=D:\jdk java.library=D:\jdk\bin\hotspot\jvm.dll java.library.path=D:\php406\extensions\
Program I am running: <?php $system = new Java("java.lang.System"); print "Java version=".$system->getProperty("java.version")." <br>"; print "Java vendor=" .$system->getProperty("java.vendor")." <br>"; print "OS=".$system->getProperty("os.name")." ". $system->getProperty("os.version")." on ". $system->getProperty("os.arch")." <br>"; $formatter = new Java("java.text.SimpleDateFormat", "EEEE, MMMM dd, yyyy 'at' h:mm:ss a zzzz"); print $formatter->format(new Java("java.util.Date")); ?>
When I start the apache server service, the program runs ok (several reloads on the browser). But, if I close the browser and open it again, the program no longer runs and give me a "Fatal error: Unable to create Java Virtual Machine in d:\http\info.php3 on line 9". After several reloads, sometimes I get it to run again (just one time).
If I restart the apache server service, the program works again, but with the same behavior: if I close the browser window and open it again,
it does not work.
While all the above is happening, if a go to the command prompt and type: "d:\php406\php d:\http\myprogram.php3", it works fine, every time.
I ran out of options and, if anyone could help, I'll appreciate.
Tks, Marcos
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Does anyone know of a more-or-less authoritative source that states that the common convention for HTTP GET/POST queries is a series of "name=value" pairs joined by "&" characters? I know I'm not just making this up, but I need to persuade someone that it is a commonly-accepted practice. Before you look... it's not in the HTTP RFCs.
Also...would it be accurate to say that life as a PHP and/or ColdFusion programmer is easier if the aforementioned HTTP GET/POSTs are performed in this manner? I know as a frequent user of Perl's CGI.pm module that I take this convention for granted. ---scott
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> Does anyone know of a more-or-less authoritative source that states > that the common convention for HTTP GET/POST queries is a series of > "name=value" pairs joined by "&" characters? I know I'm not just > making this up, but I need to persuade someone that it is a > commonly-accepted practice. Before you look... it's not in the HTTP > RFCs.
Read the CGI Specification, or simply create a GET method form and submit it with a couple of different browsers and look at the URL it sends. There isn't much arguing with this.
> Also...would it be accurate to say that life as a PHP and/or > ColdFusion programmer is easier if the aforementioned HTTP GET/POSTs > are performed in this manner? I know as a frequent user of Perl's > CGI.pm module that I take this convention for granted.
Sure, but technically the separator shouldn't actually be & it should be & or simply ;
In PHP you can change this in your php.ini file with the arg_separator directive. But since most browsers don't send GET-method forms this way it is somewhat pointless unless you are building something where you have full control over the clients that access your server.
By the way, that was a pretty crazy cross-post!
-Rasmus
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Hi I have a question about parsing a page on another server to grab some headlines.
I want to search down the page until I find a string "-headlines-" then I want to grab everything between the next pair of <table></table> tags.
Anyone have a quick solution?
Thanks, Chuck
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Is there a routine out there to strip all characters from a phone number except the numbers? I was going to write my own but figured there must already be one out there I can use. Thanks. Jeff Oien
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on 8/2/01 5:32 PM, Jeff Oien at jeffwebdesigns1.com wrote:
> Is there a routine out there to strip all characters from a phone > number except the numbers? I was going to write my own but > figured there must already be one out there I can use. Thanks. > Jeff Oien
ereg_replace ("[^0-9]","",$string);
-- mike cullerton
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Just as the solution to spray paint the m/b green made me smile, this did too.
This will strip out all characters except numerals at the beginning, right!
martin Cameron
On Fri, 03 Aug 2001 11:52, you wrote:
> on 8/2/01 5:32 PM, Jeff Oien at jeffwebdesigns1.com wrote:
> > Is there a routine out there to strip all characters from a phone
> > number except the numbers? I was going to write my own but
> > figured there must already be one out there I can use. Thanks.
> > Jeff Oien
>
> ereg_replace ("[^0-9]","",$string);
>
> -- mike cullerton
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No, the ^ inside the [] means the negation of whatever's inside...so, it'll strip out anything except 0-9.
jack
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From: Martin Cameron [mailto:cameroncameron.co.nz]
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 8:40 PM
To: mike cullerton
Cc: php-generallists.php.net
Subject: Re: [PHP] Phone Number #s Only?
Just as the solution to spray paint the m/b green made me smile, this did too.
This will strip out all characters except numerals at the beginning, right!
martin Cameron
On Fri, 03 Aug 2001 11:52, you wrote:
> on 8/2/01 5:32 PM, Jeff Oien at jeffwebdesigns1.com wrote:
> > Is there a routine out there to strip all characters from a phone
> > number except the numbers? I was going to write my own but
> > figured there must already be one out there I can use. Thanks.
> > Jeff Oien
>
> ereg_replace ("[^0-9]","",$string);
>
> -- mike cullerton
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actually, it removes everything from $string that is not in the range 0-9. when a ^ is the first character inside [], it negates whatever is inside.
ereg_replace ("^[0-9]","",$string); would remove the first character from $string if it were in the range 0-9.
on 8/2/01 6:39 PM, Martin Cameron at cameroncameron.co.nz wrote:
> Just as the solution to spray paint the m/b green made me smile, this did
> too.
>
> This will strip out all characters except numerals at the beginning, right!
>
> martin Cameron
>
> On Fri, 03 Aug 2001 11:52, you wrote:
>> on 8/2/01 5:32 PM, Jeff Oien at jeffwebdesigns1.com wrote:
>>> Is there a routine out there to strip all characters from a phone
>>> number except the numbers? I was going to write my own but
>>> figured there must already be one out there I can use. Thanks.
>>> Jeff Oien
>>
>> ereg_replace ("[^0-9]","",$string);
>>
>> -- mike cullerton
-- mike cullerton
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Hi all,
Does anyone know of any functions / tools / utilities / whatever that can be used to provide a timing of the execution of each line of a php program? I'm guessing this would probably be a test harness or a debug app or something.
I've used timing functions to record the execution of blocks of code or entire scripts, but I'm interested in taking it this one step further.
Anyone got any ideas?
TIA, Tom
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If I am talking to other geeky types I explain the full history of "Personal Home Page" outgrowing it's name to become "PHP: Hypertext Processor" , recursive like "GNU" ete. etc.
If I am talking to non geeky types, and they bother to ask, I go with "Professional Hypertext Processor".
Brian
At 22:54 1/08/2001 -0700, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote:
> > > PHP Hypertext Preprocessor.
> >
> > Which does not explain the php
>
>Sure it does - look in the titlebar of your browser when you go to
>http://php.net
>
>-Rasmus
>
>
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Hi all,
Is it possible to use here docs in php without expanding the variables. Its possible in perl, but perhaps there's a reason only this way is described. If there's no reason not to include this, would others find it useful to add as a feature?
Something like
$var = <<<'EOF' something with a $var EOF;
Then you could use eval. I have another way of doing this, just wanted to see if this was/could be possible.
Thanks, Jack Dempsey
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Hello all,
I just discovered PHP this week. I'm reading about include statements. If I have a text file 2000 characters in length that I want to include, I would do this to include to whole file:
<?php include ("file.txt"); ?>
What would I do if I only wanted to include the first 250 characters and spaces of the file "text.txt?
Thanks
Craig ><>
westermanchanuteks.com
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On Fri, 3 Aug 2001 10:16, Craig Westerman wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I just discovered PHP this week. I'm reading about include statements.
> If I have a text file 2000 characters in length that I want to include,
> I would do this to include to whole file:
>
> <?php
> include ("file.txt");
> ?>
>
> What would I do if I only wanted to include the first 250 characters
> and spaces of the file "text.txt?
>
> Thanks
>
> Craig ><>
> westermanchanuteks.com
OPen the file and read in the required number of characters (short explanation). Have a look at the file handling functions.
-- David Robley Techno-JoaT, Web Maintainer, Mail List Admin, etc CENTRE FOR INJURY STUDIES Flinders University, SOUTH AUSTRALIAMatrimony isn't a word, it's a sentence.
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OPen the file and read in the required number of characters (short explanation). Have a look at the file handling functions.
-- David RobleyThanks David,
I came up with this, but it doesn't work. Does text file need to be in a special format? It is 4 paragraphs of plain text created in notepad. ------------------------------------------------------------ <html> <head> <title>Include Abbreviated File</title> </head>
<body>
<pre> <?php $txtfile = fopen("text.txt", "r");
while (!feof($filePointer)) { $line = fgets($txtfile, 250); print $line; }
close($txtfile);
?> </pre>
</body> </html> ------------------------------------------------------------
Thanks
Craig ><> westerman
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On Fri, 3 Aug 2001 13:29, Craig Westerman wrote: > OPen the file and read in the required number of characters (short > explanation). Have a look at the file handling functions. > > -- > David Robley > > > Thanks David, > > I came up with this, but it doesn't work. Does text file need to be in > a special format? It is 4 paragraphs of plain text created in notepad. > ------------------------------------------------------------ > <html> > <head> > <title>Include Abbreviated File</title> > </head> > > <body> > > <pre> > <?php > $txtfile = fopen("text.txt", "r"); > > while (!feof($filePointer))
?? shouldn't that be $txtfile rather than $filepointer ??
> { > $line = fgets($txtfile, 250); > print $line; > } > > close($txtfile); > > ?> > </pre> > > </body> > </html> > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > Thanks
Not quite. fgets will read up to length-1 bytes _OR_ a NewLine or EOF, whichever comes first. So if your first line is < 250 chars, it'll just read that line, then go on to the next one.
What you might want to do is something like
$line = ''; $fp = fopen("text.txt", "r"); while (!feof($fp)) { $line .= fgets($txtfile, 250); //append to $line print $line; if(strlen($line) >= 250) { break; // jump out when enough chars received } } $line = substr($line,0,250); // bring it down to 250 chars close($fp);
Or even better :-)
$line = ''; $fp = fopen("text.txt", "r"); $line = fread($fp, 250); close($fp);
-- David Robley Techno-JoaT, Web Maintainer, Mail List Admin, etc CENTRE FOR INJURY STUDIES Flinders University, SOUTH AUSTRALIAWhy blame Clinton? He hasn't done a darn thing.
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For the ImageCopyMerge() function in the PHP manual (http://php.net/manual/en/function.imagecopymerge.php) it states at the top that "(PHP 4 >= 4.0.1)" is required in order to use it. However, farther down the page, it says "Note: This function was added in PHP 4.0.6"
Am I mis-reading something? Can anyone tell me which is the correct version of PHP in which this function was added?
Thanks.
--kurt
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In mySQL, how do I set an auto increment field to start at a certain number-let's say 10000? Do I just insert the first record with the desired number I wish to start with?
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on 8/2/01 9:01 PM, Ralph Guzman at raguzmannetraiser.com wrote:
> In mySQL, how do I set an auto increment field to start at a certain > number-let's say 10000? Do I just insert the first record with the desired > number I wish to start with? >
it appears to depend on the table type. i believe you are ok with MyISAM or InnoDB tables. check out the docs on table creation and column types at mysql.com.
-- mike cullerton
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Hi people,
Is anyone has any advice about what should be the very good web traffic report software? I need to use that to track all statistic data on my sites, including all clicks on image links and hyperlinks.
Jack
jackyactivelifestyle.com
"Love your enemies, it will drive them nuts"
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awstats.sourceforge.net
I've always gotten a warm fuzzy feeling from awstats, but its in perl.
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Subject: [PHP] web traffic report
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 10:18:27 -0500
From: "Jack" <jackyactivelifestyle.com>
To: <php-generallists.php.net>
Hi people,
Is anyone has any advice about what should be the very good web traffic
report software? I need to use that to track all statistic data on my sites,
including all clicks on image links and hyperlinks. Jack
jackyactivelifestyle.com
"Love your enemies, it will drive them nuts"
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analog seems to be the industry standard - use it with the extended log format.
http://www.statslab.cam.ac.uk/~sret1/analog/
Chris
Jack wrote:
> Hi people,
> Is anyone has any advice about what should be the very good web traffic report software? I need to use that to track all statistic data on my sites, including all clicks on image links and hyperlinks.
> Jack
> jackyactivelifestyle.com
> "Love your enemies, it will drive them nuts"
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another vote for analog.
on 8/2/01 9:46 PM, Chris Fry at chrisquillsoft.com.au wrote:
> analog seems to be the industry standard - use it with the extended log > format. > > http://www.statslab.cam.ac.uk/~sret1/analog/ >
-- mike cullerton
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Can someone show me how to display the contents of a table in a MS Access file using ODBC on my Windows machine?
Thanks, John
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How can I add an excel file with *.xls extension directly into MySQL database..is it possible to do or I need to convert it into *.csv format or *.txt format first?
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