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php-general Digest 2 Aug 2006 12:38:06 -0000 Issue 4270

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Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion
        239967 by: Robert Cummings
        239968 by: Robert Cummings
        239969 by: Colin Guthrie
        239970 by: Ligaya Turmelle
        239971 by: rich gray
        239972 by: Robert Cummings
        239974 by: Hidayet Dogan
        239975 by: Andries Seutens
        239976 by: Tony Marston
        239977 by: Paul Scott

e107 opinions
        239973 by: Tony Aldrich

Image list performance ISSUE
        239978 by: Andy
        239982 by: tedd

Printer Friendly
        239979 by: weetat
        239980 by: David Robley
        239981 by: Andries Seutens

Dynamic Images
        239983 by: Manoj Singh

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On Tue, 2006-08-01 at 23:40 +0100, Steve Turnbull wrote:
> On Tue, 2006-08-01 at 12:35 -0400, Gabe wrote:
> > What's the common consensus as to a solid PHP framework to use for
> > application development? There seems to be a number of them out there,
> > but I'm not sure which one's are the most robust, actively developed,
> > secure, etc etc.
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
> I use Zend Pro - it makes for very effective development, especially
> when developing in a team. It supports Subversion and CVS version
> control, has excellent predictive typing, PHPDoc support, syntax
> highlighting, ftp and sftp support, the list goes on...
>
> Also, for about $80 (off the top of my head), there is a great course
> run by PHP Architect on getting the most from it - it really is a
> powerful tool.
>
> Downside is it's more costly than others, but well worth it in my
> opinion.

An IDE is not a framework, it's an IDE :)

Cheers,
Rob.
--
Robert Cummings <robertinterjinn.com>
InterJinn

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On Tue, 2006-08-01 at 18:17 -0400, tedd wrote:
> At 10:46 PM +0100 8/1/06, Colin Guthrie wrote:
> >I'm surprised no-one has mentioned the Zend Framework yet.....
> >
> >I'm looking to do a bit of a rewrite of a large PHP application in
> >the near future and would like to think Zend would be a good horse
> >to back, but the fact no-one here has mentioned it yet makes me
> >doubt this tactic!
> >
> >Anyone got opinions (good or bad) on Zend that would be helpful for
> >me (and others)?
> >
> >Col.
>
> Col:
>
> I own Zend Professional, but don't use it (not good or bad).
>
> I find that Macintosh GoLive CS (although not designed as a php
> development platform) meets most of my needs, which are a mixture of
> html, css, php, mysql, and javascript editing. Additionally, GoLive
> works as a my-side/server-side file organizational and
> synchronization system.

An IDE is not a framework. it's an IDE :)

Cheers,
Rob.
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Robert Cummings wrote:
> On Tue, 2006-08-01 at 18:17 -0400, tedd wrote:
>> At 10:46 PM +0100 8/1/06, Colin Guthrie wrote:
>>> I'm surprised no-one has mentioned the Zend Framework yet.....

snip.

>> I own Zend Professional, but don't use it (not good or bad).

snip.

> An IDE is not a framework. it's an IDE :)

Yes, I think tedd misunderstood me. I was refering to the Zend
Framework.....

http://framework.zend.com/

Col.

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Colin Guthrie wrote:
> Satyam wrote:
>
>> There is no 'common consensus' but I am sure you'll be getting lots
>> and lots, I would even say LOTS, of sugestions.
>
>
> I'm surprised no-one has mentioned the Zend Framework yet.....
>
> I'm looking to do a bit of a rewrite of a large PHP application in the
> near future and would like to think Zend would be a good horse to back,
> but the fact no-one here has mentioned it yet makes me doubt this tactic!
>
> Anyone got opinions (good or bad) on Zend that would be helpful for me
> (and others)?
>
> Col.
>
I have played a bit with the ZF and liked it (0.1.3). I know
PHPDeveloper.org is based off of it and I think the Zend developer zone
as well. It has a number of prominent developers writing code for it
and by the looks of the mailing list seems to have a large community.
But it is still early in it's development so expect changes to it.

My prediction for the ZF - it will not fit all needs - but will be used
on many of the "enterprise" sites and will be one of those things that
are listed in the "nice to have" section of job postings.

--

life is a game... so have fun.

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Robert Cummings wrote:
> [chop]
> An IDE is not a framework, it's an IDE :)
>
> Cheers,
> Rob.
>
I think Rob is being unduly modest - correct me if I am wrong but he is
the core developer of the InterJinn php framework ->
http://interjinn.com - it's been out there for a while now (read:
robust, fully featured) and the ZF is still in beta I think...
cheers
rich
 

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On Wed, 2006-08-02 at 04:15 +0200, rich gray wrote:
> Robert Cummings wrote:
> > [chop]
> > An IDE is not a framework, it's an IDE :)
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Rob.
> >
> I think Rob is being unduly modest - correct me if I am wrong but he is
> the core developer of the InterJinn php framework ->
> http://interjinn.com - it's been out there for a while now (read:
> robust, fully featured) and the ZF is still in beta I think...

*lol* Thanks for the props. I don't really promote InterJinn anymore. I
actively develop it as my needs arise for my customers (which is failry
often) but the documentation is out of date and I haven't found time
lately to improve upon that. It fulfills all my own needs (and when it
doesn't I just add new stuff :) But as someone said frameworks never
meet all your needs and eventually it comes down to taste and community.
At any rate, there are probably hundreds of frameworks out there now,
and voting for myself seems self gratifying *heheh*.

BTW I posted under a different email address earlier because I just
recently upgraded my email client from evolution 1.4 to 2.6.1 and it
seems to be having issues with my default account setting :/

Cheers,
Rob.
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| InterJinn Application Framework - http://www.interjinn.com |
:------------------------------------------------------------:
| An application and templating framework for PHP. Boasting |
| a powerful, scalable system for accessing system services |
| such as forms, properties, sessions, and caches. InterJinn |
| also provides an extremely flexible architecture for |
| creating re-usable components quickly and easily. |
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What about CakePHP and Code Igniter?

I know working with Code Igniter easier than CakePHP, but CakePHP is more
capable than Code Igniter.

On Tue, 1 Aug 2006, Robert Cummings wrote:

> On Wed, 2006-08-02 at 04:15 +0200, rich gray wrote:
>> Robert Cummings wrote:
>>> [chop]
>>> An IDE is not a framework, it's an IDE :)
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Rob.
>>>
>> I think Rob is being unduly modest - correct me if I am wrong but he is
>> the core developer of the InterJinn php framework ->
>> http://interjinn.com - it's been out there for a while now (read:
>> robust, fully featured) and the ZF is still in beta I think...
>
> *lol* Thanks for the props. I don't really promote InterJinn anymore. I
> actively develop it as my needs arise for my customers (which is failry
> often) but the documentation is out of date and I haven't found time
> lately to improve upon that. It fulfills all my own needs (and when it
> doesn't I just add new stuff :) But as someone said frameworks never
> meet all your needs and eventually it comes down to taste and community.
> At any rate, there are probably hundreds of frameworks out there now,
> and voting for myself seems self gratifying *heheh*.
>
> BTW I posted under a different email address earlier because I just
> recently upgraded my email client from evolution 1.4 to 2.6.1 and it
> seems to be having issues with my default account setting :/
>
> Cheers,
> Rob.
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> .------------------------------------------------------------.
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> :------------------------------------------------------------:
> | An application and templating framework for PHP. Boasting |
> | a powerful, scalable system for accessing system services |
> | such as forms, properties, sessions, and caches. InterJinn |
> | also provides an extremely flexible architecture for |
> | creating re-usable components quickly and easily. |
> `------------------------------------------------------------'
>
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Hidayet Dogan schreef:
> What about CakePHP and Code Igniter?
>
> I know working with Code Igniter easier than CakePHP, but CakePHP is
> more capable than Code Igniter.

Hi,

Lately frameworks have become a real *hype*. Currently, there are more
than 40 frameworks out there, and new ones are being released daily.

This gives us a wide variety of frameworks to choose from, and pick the
one that fits to most of our needs.

This comparison chart gives you an overview of the functionality each
framework offers:

http://www.phpit.net/demo/framework%20comparison/chart.php

Personally, I think that the community at the Zend Framework is doing a
pretty good job. Everything is coded very well, with a lot of
possibilities to extend things to your personal needs (if nessecary).

Regards,

Andries Seutens
Belgium
http://andries.systray.be

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"Gabe" <ydnahg-news4432mailblocks.com> wrote in message
news:2D.50.45114.6D28FC44pb1.pair.com...
> What's the common consensus as to a solid PHP framework to use for
> application development? There seems to be a number of them out there,
> but I'm not sure which one's are the most robust, actively developed,
> secure, etc etc.
>
> Thoughts?

If you want a rapid application development framework for administrative web
applications then take a look at http://www.radicore.org It has dynamic
menus, a role based access control system, audit logging without database
triggers, a data dictionary, internationalisation, and a workflow engine.

--
Tony Marston
http://www.tonymarston.net
http://www.radicore.org

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> Personally, I think that the community at the Zend Framework is doing a
> pretty good job. Everything is coded very well, with a lot of
> possibilities to extend things to your personal needs (if nessecary).

The ZF is OK, its really immature though, but the advantage being that
it is coded in a similar way, as well as similar thinking as our
framework - chisimba (http://5ive.uwc.ac.za/ )

In fact we have used some of the components from ZF in it already.

--Paul

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Good day!
I want to ask any comments about e107 CMS? Easy? Usefull? Extendible?
Thanks. Tony.

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Hi,

I have tons of images, which belongs to different users. In the software we show to the users only the images that they have, but If they take the image links manually they can also see the other images if they modify the image name in the link.

Now, I can override the image request with apache rewrite and send the request to a php file, which analizes the user rights and if the user has rights to see that image. After that I output the image file with php this way:
            header("Content-Type: image/jpeg");
            header("Content-Length: ".filesize($fname));
            readfile($fname);

... where fname is the image file.

I want to know... is this a big performance issue or not(the image is handled by php and not by apache directly)

OR...

Is there any other way to handle this situation???

Thanx,
Andy.

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At 12:15 PM +0300 8/2/06, Andy wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I have tons of images, which belongs to different users. In the
>software we show to the users only the images that they have, but If
>they take the image links manually they can also see the other
>images if they modify the image name in the link.
>
>-snip-
>
>Is there any other way to handle this situation???

Have each user have their own directory.

tedd

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Hi all ,

   I have a web page which need to be print to the printer.
   However when i use javascript window print() function , the page and
alignment is out.

   Read on the net , suggest that i need to setup a printer friendly
page in the web page.

   Any ideas how i going to accomplished it in php ?

Thanks

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weetat wrote:

> Hi all ,
>
> I have a web page which need to be print to the printer.
> However when i use javascript window print() function , the page and
> alignment is out.
>
> Read on the net , suggest that i need to setup a printer friendly
> page in the web page.
>
> Any ideas how i going to accomplished it in php ?
>
> Thanks

You don't do it with php - you use css and html.

Cheers
--
David Robley

"I'd like some Chinese food," said Tom wantonly.
Today is Prickle-Prickle, the 68th day of Confusion in the YOLD 3172.

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weetat schreef:
> Hi all ,
>
> I have a web page which need to be print to the printer.
> However when i use javascript window print() function , the page and
> alignment is out.
>
> Read on the net , suggest that i need to setup a printer friendly
> page in the web page.
>
> Any ideas how i going to accomplished it in php ?
>
> Thanks

This depends on where your content comes from, and the way you have
setup your output to be generated.

A simple example would be to setup a new page where you display the same
content, but with all the html tags stripped...

Best regards,

Andries Seutens
Belgium
http://andries.systray.be

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Hello all,

I am creating a a script in which a dynamic graph is generated through gd
library. The format of the picture is jpeg. Now the problem is that the
browser is caching the images and after updating also it is displaying the
older image.

Currently for clearing the cache i am using this code
<?php
header("Last-Modified: " . gmdate("D, d M Y H:i:s") . " GMT");
header("Cache-Control: no-store, no-cache, must-revalidate");
header("Cache-Control: no-cache");
header("Pragma: no-cache");
?>

But this code is not working me. Please help me.

Regards
Manoj

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Software Engineer
Kalptaru Infotech Ltd
Dawa Bazaar
Indore (MP)
452001

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