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php-general Digest 14 Aug 2006 07:20:57 -0000 Issue 4292

Topics (messages 240601 through 240618):

Re: Internet Explorer doesn't display UTF-8 page using UTF-8 encoding
        240601 by: Rasmus Lerdorf

Re: How to run one php app from another?
        240602 by: Gerry D

Re: New Large Scale Project.
        240603 by: Jay Blanchard

Re: Chicago PHP Conference
        240604 by: Jay Blanchard

I am receiving multiple same emails!!!
        240605 by: Karl James
        240609 by: Chris
        240611 by: Chris

Re: How to run one php app from another? RECAP
        240606 by: Gerry D

Re: page redirecting
        240607 by: Gerry D

Re: Preventing double-clicks
        240608 by: Gerry D

Re: Unicode
        240610 by: Ligaya Turmelle

Re: Functions
        240612 by: Gerry D

Re: Problem Creating a New SSL Cert in Apache2
        240613 by: Chris

Re: Compiling and iconv
        240614 by: Chris

Re: non-text data
        240615 by: John Meyer
        240616 by: Chris
        240617 by: John Meyer
        240618 by: Dave Shariff Yadallee - System Administrator a.k.a. The Root of the Problem

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tedd wrote:
> At 6:48 PM -0700 8/12/06, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote:
>> By the way, everyone should be setting a charset. If you don't set
>> it, IE will look at the first 4k of the body of the page and take a
>> wild guess.
>>
>> -Rasmus
>
> -Rasmus:
>
> Ok, but why doesn't w3c use it?
>
> http://validator.w3.org (check source)
>
> I'm not sure what to do re charset. I've been told by credible sources
> to "always use it" and "never use it" -- which is correct? Or, is this
> one of those "it depends" things?

W3C is all about standards. IE is all about not following standards.
If you want your site to work in the real world you should always set a
charset. If you set it in your response header there is no need to set
it in each page, and if you look closely, you will see that this is what
  w3.org is doing:

9:55am shiny:~> telnet validator.w3.org 80
Trying 133.27.228.132...
Connected to validator.w3.org.
Escape character is '^]'.
HEAD / HTTP/1.0

HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 18:42:15 GMT
Server: Apache/2.0.54 (Debian GNU/Linux) mod_perl/1.999.21 Perl/v5.8.4
Accept-Ranges: bytes
Connection: close
Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8

-Rasmus

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I don't know if you solved this already, but I use it to redirect to
different pages depending on whther the user is logged in or not.

Something like header("location:/page/?p=login"); works fine. You were
on the right track.

Gerry

On 6/15/06, tedd <teddsperling.com> wrote:
> Hi gang:
>
> This seems like so obvious a question, I am reluctant to ask.
>
> In any event, I simply want my php application to run another, like so:
>
> switch (option)
> {
> case a:
> run a.php;
> exit;
> break;
>
> case b:
> run b.php;
> exit;
> break;
>
> case c:
> run c.php;
> exit;
> break;
> }
>
> I know that from within an application I can run another php application via a user click (.e., button), or from javascript event (onclick), or even from cron. But, what if you want to run another application from the results of a calculation inside your main application without a "user trigger". How do you do that?
>
> I have tried header("Location: http://www.example.com/"); ob_start(), ob_flush() and such, but I can't get anything to work.
>
> Is there a way?
>
> Thanks.
>
> tedd
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[snip]
My other problem is even though I'm confident coding I find design
very difficult I've a good idea of how the website would work but only
in general terms.
[/snip]

Have you ever sat down wit paper and pencil (or Excel or any number of
other tools) and attempted to flowchart a project? It will provide
truckloads of insight, you'd be amazed at how you can break down a
project into discrete modules that will make things easier to swallow.

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[snip]
I'm in the pre-planning phase of organizing a PHP Conference in Chicago.
[/snip]

Capital idea Richard, thanks for making this more formal.

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Team,

I unsubscribe and subscribe later on.

I am still receiving multiple emails from the same user.

How do I stop this madness. I do not want to unsubscribe from

This mailing list.

Karl James ("TheSaint")
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Karl James wrote:
> Team,
>
> I unsubscribe and subscribe later on.
>
> I am still receiving multiple emails from the same user.

 From this mailing list or from a particular subscriber?

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Karl James wrote:
> Chris,
> I am not sure.
> How do I find out?
> I am looking in the header and I see this.
>
> -----------------------------------------------------
> From: dmagickgmail.com
> To Karl James
> CC php-generallist.php.net
> Subject Re:[PHP] I am receiving multiple same emails.
> -----------------------------------------------------

Firstly always cc the list.

You're receiving the email once from me and once from the mailing list
by the sounds of it.

Email list-help: <mailto:php-general-helplists.php.net>

and there should be an option to turn that off.

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On 6/16/06, tedd <teddsperling.com> wrote:
> At 2:35 PM +0200 6/16/06, Barry wrote:
> >But once output is made. You can't remove it.
> >
> >That isn't possible with PHP.
>
> I think I get it now.
>
> PHP does everything before the user see's anything. Any links (direct or via a form) are objects that the browser can act upon per the user through html or js, but not php. Interesting.

Perfectly doable in PHP. Just have the form action go to a new php
script and do your logic, then use header("location:...") to redirect.

Gerry

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On 6/28/06, Richard Lynch <ceol-i-e.com> wrote:
> On Wed, June 28, 2006 5:17 am, kristianto adi widiatmoko wrote:
> > i need to redirecting page, it could be done by using header function
> > like this
> >
> > header("Location : page2.php?var1=foo");
>
> Then, the URL should be a full, complete URL, and not just a local
> reference.

Sure you can use a local page, I do it all the time.

> You could just use session_start() at the top of both pages, and slam
> the data into $_SESSION, and then your Location: redirect would "work"

Yep.

Gerry

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Jay,

I use a technique to prevent hitting the "back" button and
resubmitting data. I use a 2-script process, one with the form and
"submit" button (I set a session var here), and a second form (the
"action" script). The action script makes sure the session variable is
set, processes the info, then clears the session var. If the session
var is not set, an error is displayed.

Gerry

On 6/26/06, Jay Blanchard <jblanchardpocket.com> wrote:
> I am going to do some thinking (typing) out loud here because I need to
> come up with a solution to double-clicking on a form button issue.
>
> The steps are;
>
> 1. Fill out form
> 2. Click 'Submit'
> 3. Data gets stored (including unique data and time stamp data in this
> case....which should work out well)
> If the process sees the unique data and a timestamp sometime within the
> last minute it should ignore the subsequent attempt.
> 4. A reply is returned to the user based on the first click. The data
> returned to the user would be different for each click, that is why this
> is so important. The first data returned is the correct data.
>
> My confusion is in this (as I have mentioned in the past couple of
> weeks, most of the confusion is as a result of a lack of rest, which
> leads to not thinking clearly, which leads to me feeling ignorant); upon
> the second click, where I check to see if the data has been entered and
> find that it has how do I get it to return the data back to the user. I
> think I see it now......let's see.....if I;
>
> Select * from foo where data is what it is and time is within last
> interval that I decide upon;
>
> if(1 == mysql_num_rows(that query up there)){
> get that data for return to the user;
> } else {
> Insert data, do calcs, return data back to user;
> }
>
> Does that look reasonable, or am I missing something?
>
> Thanks for any insight!
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tedd wrote:
> At 7:08 PM -0700 6/4/06, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote:
>
>>Larry Garfield wrote:
>>
>>>In C or C++, yes. In PHP, do not assume the same string->number mapping. Numeric definition is irrelevant.
>>
>>Right, and now bring Unicode into the picture and this becomes even more true.
>>
>
> -Rasmus
>
> I know there's always RTFM, but if you would care to discuss it, I would like to know why. How does php handle Unicode code-points and char-sets?
>
> Thanks.
>
> tedd
 From what little I understand (and I could be wrong - been a while)- it
doesn't. PHP < 6 works in bytes unless you have the mb extension going
and then it fakes it. it doesn't look for code points or charsets.

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On 6/30/06, Richard Lynch <ceol-i-e.com> wrote:

> #2. Don't alter the case of the input data, if at all possible.
> Accept what the user has given, and take it as it is. You can make
> your application not care about case, and you can format the case on
> ouput (maybe even with fancy CSS stuff) but don't mess with their
> input.

Why not clean up crappy input right at the source, Richard?

Gerry

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Mike wrote:
> Windows Server
> Apache2
> OpenSSL
>
> I am new to working with SSL Certs so I am sure I did something wrong
> somewhere. Where???? I have no idea!
>
> We needed an SSL Cert for our website. I created the CSR using
>
> openssl req -new -out uwm.csr
>
> answered all of the questions, went to GoDaddy and did a copy and paste into
> their text area, and created a certificate. I took the output of the
> certificate key, created a notepad file, copied the text into the file, and
> named it uwm.crt.
>
> I restarted apache and it would not start. Using the expired cert, apache
> worked.

Check the apache error logs, it should contain information about what's
wrong. It could be as simple as different permissions on the different
certificate files.

TBH though you're better off jumping on an apache list and asking there,
they will be able to help you a lot more.

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Ray Hauge wrote:
> I use Slackware linux, and XMLRPC is not compiled in by default with my
> distro, so I'm compiling PHP myself. It's always been a simple enough task.
> First I get and install the required xmlrpc-epi libraries, and then I compile
> PHP telling it where I just installed them. Now I get this error message:
>
> undefined reference to `libiconv'
>
> when compiling PHP. I did some searching, and the only thing I've found in
> reference to this error was a bug in version 4.3.10. Has anyone run into
> this issue, or have some suggestions?
>
> I have checked that /usr/include/iconv.h is there, and it defines all the
> iconv_* and iconv compiler flags etc. I can also vouch that using iconv on
> the command line works just fine.

Try explicitly telling php where iconv is by adding this option to your
configure command:

--with-iconv-dir=/usr

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Gd,
BTW, came into this late, have we gotten the old "store your images in the
filesystem and save the file name in the database" argument yet?

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Shariff Yadallee - System Administrator a.k.a. The Root of the
Problem [mailto:rootdoctor.nl2k.ab.ca]
Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 10:21 PM
To: Chris
Cc: mysqllists.mysql.com
Subject: Re: non-text data

On Mon, Aug 14, 2006 at 10:42:50AM +1000, Chris wrote:
> Dave Shariff Yadallee - System Administrator a.k.a. The Root of the
> Problem wrote:
> >I use SELECT all from * ... and one row is a gif.
> >
> >How do I get that gif to appear as a gif and not text?
>
> In your connecting programming language.
>
> Mysql doesn't know or care whether it's a gif, pdf, word doc or
> anything else.
>
> Whatever programming language you are using to connect to mysql and
> fetch the data will be able to convert that binary data and display an
> image.
>

PHP?
 
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John Meyer wrote:
> Gd,
> BTW, came into this late, have we gotten the old "store your images in the
> filesystem and save the file name in the database" argument yet?

Nope, haven't done that one yet, do you want to start it off or shall I? ;)

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Depends on how pugnacious I'm feeling, awscrewit, you go for it.

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From: Chris [mailto:dmagickgmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 10:41 PM
To: John Meyer
Cc: 'Dave Shariff Yadallee - System Administrator a.k.a. The Root of the
Problem'; '[php] PHP General List'
Subject: Re: [PHP] RE: non-text data

John Meyer wrote:
> Gd,
> BTW, came into this late, have we gotten the old "store your images in
> the filesystem and save the file name in the database" argument yet?

Nope, haven't done that one yet, do you want to start it off or shall I? ;)

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On Mon, Aug 14, 2006 at 02:40:53PM +1000, Chris wrote:
> John Meyer wrote:
> >Gd,
> >BTW, came into this late, have we gotten the old "store your images in the
> >filesystem and save the file name in the database" argument yet?
>
> Nope, haven't done that one yet, do you want to start it off or shall I? ;)
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Careful where you light your match.

You may blow up if you are not careful.
 
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