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php-general Digest 15 May 2007 12:37:23 -0000 Issue 4792

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php-general Digest 15 May 2007 12:37:23 -0000 Issue 4792

Topics (messages 254928 through 254975):

Resources for plugin based frameworks
254928 by: Guillaume Theoret
254929 by: Greg Donald

Bounty, NOW!
        254930 by: Brad Sumrall
        254932 by: Robert Cummings
        254933 by: Auto-Deppe, C. Haensel
        254938 by: Andrew Wilson
        254939 by: Brad Sumrall
        254940 by: Paul Scott
        254943 by: heavyccasey.gmail.com
        254944 by: Andrew Wilson
        254945 by: heavyccasey.gmail.com
        254953 by: Brad Sumrall
        254968 by: Paul Novitski
        254975 by: Martin Marques

Re: Bounty now!
254931 by: Brad Sumrall

Re: Bounty
        254934 by: Brad Sumrall
        254935 by: Brad Sumrall
        254936 by: Brad Sumrall
        254937 by: Auto-Deppe, C. Haensel
        254941 by: Brad Sumrall
        254942 by: Brad Sumrall
        254948 by: Chris
        254949 by: Brad Sumrall
        254950 by: Auto-Deppe, C. Haensel
        254951 by: Brad Sumrall
        254952 by: heavyccasey.gmail.com
        254954 by: Brad Sumrall
        254972 by: Richard Davey

Enough games, password changed, need a php "make it happen person"
254946 by: Brad Sumrall
254947 by: heavyccasey.gmail.com

Re: Bounty FYI
        254955 by: Brad Sumrall
        254956 by: Paul Scott
        254957 by: Christian Haensel
        254958 by: Chris
        254959 by: Chris
        254960 by: Brad Sumrall
        254961 by: Brad Sumrall
        254962 by: Christian Haensel
        254963 by: Chris
        254964 by: Brad Sumrall
        254965 by: Brad Sumrall
        254966 by: Brad Sumrall
        254967 by: Brad Sumrall
        254969 by: David Robley
        254970 by: Brad Sumrall
        254971 by: Zoltán Németh

Re: Making code public -- What steps to take? GPL?
254973 by: Micky Hulse

Timezones
254974 by: Rob Desbois

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Hi,

I'm about to start a project and I'm still in the architectural design
phase. It's going to be a content management system but for several
unrelated things such as website management, employee management or
project management.

I plan on building a module based system where each part can be
developed as an individual plugin and then just added into the
portal/main page.

Does anyone know of any php-specific resources (either online or paper
format, both are fine) that would be helpful?

Thank you,
Guillaume

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On 5/14/07, Guillaume Theoret <smokinngmail.com> wrote:
> I'm about to start a project and I'm still in the architectural design
> phase. It's going to be a content management system but for several
> unrelated things such as website management, employee management or
> project management.
>
> I plan on building a module based system where each part can be
> developed as an individual plugin and then just added into the
> portal/main page.
>
> Does anyone know of any php-specific resources (either online or paper
> format, both are fine) that would be helpful?

If PHP is required I would suggest Drupal. It's a really good CMS
with a solid plugin/module architecture. The API is very well
documented.

--
Greg Donald
http://destiney.com/

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My good friend dropped the ball!

Here is the gig, and less than 48 to get it done.
For those whom know phpbb and php, this should be a cake walk!
Easy cash.....

<http://www.123yachtdayworkers.com> http://www.123yachtdayworkers.com

ftp user = onetwou9

ftp pass = garvitos

accessing the mysql is through cpanel at <http://www.bluehosting.com>
http://www.bluehosting.com ? maybe?

Using ftp password and domain name?

Use my servers mysql if needed

<http://www.boatcrafts.net> http://www.boatcrafts.net

brads

andreasd

This guy is going to have a lot of stuff for us. We are slightly over
budget, but he is very happy thus far.

When I walk into this one, he had a basic page and going crazy trying to
write a basic DB query.

I hooked him up with phpbb and some how to get it don instruction and now he
needs this piece of customer code.

Concept:

Joe worker logs in and says I am available on yaddy yah days (calendar mod
is kind of works?) along with his description etc.

Joe Captain pays 10 buck to select 5 workers over the course of a month or
has to pay more.

He views (without last name, email, or phone number) Joe worker, selects
days he is need based on available days on calendar.

Email is sent to Joe Captain with all of worker contact info and Joe
receives email notice as well.

Record of transaction is keep in a DB table, a count >=5 should be stored in
a table in case Joe Captain does not use his 5 picks up to 30 days.

Hence Flowchart:

Collect Calendar dates and user id variable for FORM data

On SUBMIT, POST

Db 1 for count Captain Email Worker email DB record

Goal:

If I provide a basic submit button which emails Joe Worker and Joe Captain
with user profile info and a record in the database. i.e grab the variable
from a selected profile and submit = 2 emails and count >= 5 or error. We
are golden!

If you have any tricks with the calendar. People will be very happy.

attached mail follows:

Maybe you know what you're doing, more than likely you don't. Posting
logins and passwords to your server on a public mailing list is usually
tantamount to idiocy.

Cheers,
Rob.

On Tue, 2007-05-15 at 01:20 -0400, Brad Sumrall wrote:
> My good friend dropped the ball!
>
> Here is the gig, and less than 48 to get it done.
> For those whom know phpbb and php, this should be a cake walk!
> Easy cash.....

--
.------------------------------------------------------------.
| InterJinn Application Framework - http://www.interjinn.com |
:------------------------------------------------------------:
| An application and templating framework for PHP. Boasting |
| a powerful, scalable system for accessing system services |
| such as forms, properties, sessions, and caches. InterJinn |
| also provides an extremely flexible architecture for |
| creating re-usable components quickly and easily. |
`------------------------------------------------------------'

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Brad,

I am pretty new to this mailing list thing, but even I would NEVER do stuff
like that. Even though I would bet my behind that at least 90% of us
PHP-Coders are men and women of honour, you should never post username &
pass like that... Oh wait... maybe your root pass for the server :oP

Seriously mate, don't do that, or you might get visitors you don't like (the
other 10% of readers on this list).

Be aware of the dogs ;o)

From rainy germany, my name is
Chris

Back to you, Becky Anderson!

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Cummings" <robertinterjinn.com>
To: "Brad Sumrall" <Bradsftnco.com>
Cc: <php-generallists.php.net>
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 7:27 AM
Subject: Re: [PHP] Bounty, NOW!

> Maybe you know what you're doing, more than likely you don't. Posting
> logins and passwords to your server on a public mailing list is usually
> tantamount to idiocy.
>
> Cheers,
> Rob.
>
>
> On Tue, 2007-05-15 at 01:20 -0400, Brad Sumrall wrote:
>> My good friend dropped the ball!
>>
>> Here is the gig, and less than 48 to get it done.
>> For those whom know phpbb and php, this should be a cake walk!
>> Easy cash.....
>
> --
> .------------------------------------------------------------.
> | InterJinn Application Framework - http://www.interjinn.com |
> :------------------------------------------------------------:
> | An application and templating framework for PHP. Boasting |
> | a powerful, scalable system for accessing system services |
> | such as forms, properties, sessions, and caches. InterJinn |
> | also provides an extremely flexible architecture for |
> | creating re-usable components quickly and easily. |
> `------------------------------------------------------------'
>
> --
> PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/)
> To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
>
>

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Lol, Either he has

1) Changed the pass
2) Got hacked
3) Supplied with wrong pass.

Very funny thread either way.

Regards,
Andrew

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Cummings [mailto:robertinterjinn.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 3:27 PM
To: Brad Sumrall
Cc: php-generallists.php.net
Subject: Re: [PHP] Bounty, NOW!

Maybe you know what you're doing, more than likely you don't. Posting logins
and passwords to your server on a public mailing list is usually tantamount
to idiocy.

Cheers,
Rob.

--
..------------------------------------------------------------.
| InterJinn Application Framework - http://www.interjinn.com |
:------------------------------------------------------------:
| An application and templating framework for PHP. Boasting | a
| powerful, scalable system for accessing system services | such as
| forms, properties, sessions, and caches. InterJinn |
| also provides an extremely flexible architecture for |
| creating re-usable components quickly and easily. |
`------------------------------------------------------------'

--
PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit:
http://www.php.net/unsub.php

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I got 5 IP breaking Federal Regulations.....
Hehehehe
Do you think you are not being logged?

Hehehehehe

This is funny!

-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Wilson [mailto:andrewnetwaynetworks.com.au]
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 1:38 AM
To: 'Robert Cummings'; 'Brad Sumrall'
Cc: php-generallists.php.net
Subject: RE: [PHP] Bounty, NOW!

Lol, Either he has

1) Changed the pass
2) Got hacked
3) Supplied with wrong pass.

Very funny thread either way.

Regards,
Andrew

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Cummings [mailto:robertinterjinn.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 3:27 PM
To: Brad Sumrall
Cc: php-generallists.php.net
Subject: Re: [PHP] Bounty, NOW!

Maybe you know what you're doing, more than likely you don't. Posting logins
and passwords to your server on a public mailing list is usually tantamount
to idiocy.

Cheers,
Rob.

--
.------------------------------------------------------------.
| InterJinn Application Framework - http://www.interjinn.com |
:------------------------------------------------------------:
| An application and templating framework for PHP. Boasting | a
| powerful, scalable system for accessing system services | such as
| forms, properties, sessions, and caches. InterJinn |
| also provides an extremely flexible architecture for |
| creating re-usable components quickly and easily. |
`------------------------------------------------------------'

--
PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit:
http://www.php.net/unsub.php

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On Tue, 2007-05-15 at 01:46 -0400, Brad Sumrall wrote:
> I got 5 IP breaking Federal Regulations.....
> Hehehehe
> Do you think you are not being logged?
>

*YAWN* Anything better to talk about? This is very l33t-ish and is now
grossly off topic.

--Paul

All Email originating from UWC is covered by disclaimer http://www.uwc.ac.za/portal/uwc2006/content/mail_disclaimer/index.htm

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HAHA! Nice one ;)

On 5/14/07, Paul Scott <pscottuwc.ac.za> wrote:
>
> On Tue, 2007-05-15 at 01:46 -0400, Brad Sumrall wrote:
> > I got 5 IP breaking Federal Regulations.....
> > Hehehehe
> > Do you think you are not being logged?
> >
>
> *YAWN* Anything better to talk about? This is very l33t-ish and is now
> grossly off topic.
>
> --Paul
>
>
> All Email originating from UWC is covered by disclaimer http://www.uwc.ac.za/portal/uwc2006/content/mail_disclaimer/index.htm
>
>
> --
> PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/)
> To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
>

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Lol, just trying to protect you from yourself but seems like you have that
under control ;) Nice fool on us.
Goodluck finding a coder.

Regards,
Andrew

-----Original Message-----
From: Brad Sumrall [mailto:Bradsftnco.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 3:46 PM
To: 'Andrew Wilson'
Cc: php-generallists.php.net
Subject: RE: [PHP] Bounty, NOW!

I got 5 IP breaking Federal Regulations.....
Hehehehe
Do you think you are not being logged?

Hehehehehe

This is funny!

Lol, Either he has

1) Changed the pass
2) Got hacked
3) Supplied with wrong pass.

Very funny thread either way.

Regards,
Andrew

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Cummings [mailto:robertinterjinn.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 3:27 PM
To: Brad Sumrall
Cc: php-generallists.php.net
Subject: Re: [PHP] Bounty, NOW!

Maybe you know what you're doing, more than likely you don't. Posting logins
and passwords to your server on a public mailing list is usually tantamount
to idiocy.

Cheers,
Rob.

--
.------------------------------------------------------------.
| InterJinn Application Framework - http://www.interjinn.com |
:------------------------------------------------------------:
| An application and templating framework for PHP. Boasting | a
| powerful, scalable system for accessing system services | such as
| forms, properties, sessions, and caches. InterJinn |
| also provides an extremely flexible architecture for |
| creating re-usable components quickly and easily. |
`------------------------------------------------------------'

--
PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit:
http://www.php.net/unsub.php

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Oh, and 530 Authentication Failed.

On 5/14/07, heavyccaseygmail.com <heavyccaseygmail.com> wrote:
> HAHA! Nice one ;)
>
> On 5/14/07, Paul Scott <pscottuwc.ac.za> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, 2007-05-15 at 01:46 -0400, Brad Sumrall wrote:
> > > I got 5 IP breaking Federal Regulations.....
> > > Hehehehe
> > > Do you think you are not being logged?
> > >
> >
> > *YAWN* Anything better to talk about? This is very l33t-ish and is now
> > grossly off topic.
> >
> > --Paul
> >
> >
> > All Email originating from UWC is covered by disclaimer http://www.uwc.ac.za/portal/uwc2006/content/mail_disclaimer/index.htm
> >
> >
> > --
> > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/)
> > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
> >
>

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Yes, I do still need legit help. But obviously I needed to make a point to
all the script kiddies out there that you are playing with fire if you even
attempt to miss use an admin password or access a server that does not
belong to you.
As a prior USMC Network Admin and DoD network security specialist.
Back off Big brother is watching!

I come to the list as a legit person seeking intelligent minds.
Not games.

So yes, respond to me as a professional or an up and coming and let's talk
business!

Brad

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Ray [Lists] [mailto:listsblazestudios.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 3:32 AM
To: Brad Sumrall
Subject: Re: [PHP] Bounty, NOW!

If you still need serious help with this, get in touch with me. I can
help you with this I believe.

Brad Sumrall wrote:
> My good friend dropped the ball!
>
> Here is the gig, and less than 48 to get it done.
> For those whom know phpbb and php, this should be a cake walk!
> Easy cash.....
>
> <http://www.123yachtdayworkers.com> http://www.123yachtdayworkers.com
>
> ftp user = onetwou9
>
> ftp pass = garvitos
>
> accessing the mysql is through cpanel at <http://www.bluehosting.com>
> http://www.bluehosting.com ? maybe?
>
> Using ftp password and domain name?
>
> Use my servers mysql if needed
>
> <http://www.boatcrafts.net> http://www.boatcrafts.net
>
> brads
>
> andreasd
>
>
>
> This guy is going to have a lot of stuff for us. We are slightly over
> budget, but he is very happy thus far.
>
> When I walk into this one, he had a basic page and going crazy trying to
> write a basic DB query.
>
> I hooked him up with phpbb and some how to get it don instruction and now
he
> needs this piece of customer code.
>
>
>
> Concept:
>
> Joe worker logs in and says I am available on yaddy yah days (calendar mod
> is kind of works?) along with his description etc.
>
>
>
> Joe Captain pays 10 buck to select 5 workers over the course of a month or
> has to pay more.
>
> He views (without last name, email, or phone number) Joe worker, selects
> days he is need based on available days on calendar.
>
> Email is sent to Joe Captain with all of worker contact info and Joe
> receives email notice as well.
>
>
>
> Record of transaction is keep in a DB table, a count >=5 should be stored
in
> a table in case Joe Captain does not use his 5 picks up to 30 days.
>
> Hence Flowchart:
>
> Collect Calendar dates and user id variable for FORM data
>
> On SUBMIT, POST
>
> Db 1 for count Captain Email Worker email DB record
>
>
>
> Goal:
>
> If I provide a basic submit button which emails Joe Worker and Joe Captain
> with user profile info and a record in the database. i.e grab the variable
> from a selected profile and submit = 2 emails and count >= 5 or error. We
> are golden!
>
> If you have any tricks with the calendar. People will be very happy.
>
>
>

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At 5/14/2007 11:51 PM, Brad Sumrall wrote:
>Yes, I do still need legit help. But obviously I needed to make a point to
>all the script kiddies out there that you are playing with fire if you even
>attempt to miss use an admin password or access a server that does not
>belong to you.

That you posted to a listserve.

>As a prior USMC Network Admin and DoD network security specialist.

I guess "prior" must be the key word there.

Seriously, would you show this thread to an IT professional in the
Marines or the Department of Defense?

Either:

a) you deliberately posted the username & password of an FTP account
in order to entrap people responding to your post (regardless of
whether they were trying to help you), or

b) you foolishly and unthinkingly posted same and, embarrassed, are
trying to cover for your gaffe so clumsily that you actually threaten
people who responded by invoking 'Federal offense', or

c) you are so bored that you're trying to entertain yourself by
wasting our time.

I prefer to believe b). I am enough of an optimist that I prefer to
see the human capacity for stupidity and embarrassment than to see evil.

>I come to the list as a legit person seeking intelligent minds.
>Not games.

That would be a start. Your strategy for seeking intelligent minds
isn't working the way you wanted, but stopping the game-playing is a
great idea right about now.

>So yes, respond to me as a professional or an up and coming and let's talk
>business!

Whoa. Let's consider the term "professional."

Please go back and re-read this thread from the beginning,
dispassionately, and tell me if you would be either brave enough to
foolish enough to walk into a legal contract with a developer who
posts a client's FTP login information to a listserve with thousands
of users worldwide. And then laughs at and then threatens those who
attempt to use them. Seriously, why on earth would you risk working
with someone like that? How could you trust them?

Brad, any way you cut it, you really screwed up here. If I were in
your position I'm not sure how I would pull my ass out of the fan
blades. You could try this: Wipe the grin off your face. Stop
making jokes. Stop posturing -- you've already shown everyone your
underwear and you aren't going to persuade anyone that it didn't
happen. Get really fucking serious. You just shit on your
professional reputation in public, in a very large room packed with
your peers. Joking about it, denying it happened, and acting like
anyone who saw you do it is out to get you are just more
games. Nobody who's read this thread is going to believe you did
anything but shit your pants on stage. I think you just have to
relax and admit you screwed up. Get humble, stay that way, and maybe
people will be more willing to listen to you next time.

At this point, I don't know. There might be someone willing to work
with you on this project, say someone so desperate for work that
they'd risk a lawsuit or whatever your next trick might be. The only
way I'd be willing to get involved in this project would be if I
could deal directly with the client and not with you. Please
understand that I'm not saying this just to be mean. I don't know
you, you're probably a perfectly harmless guy, maybe even a nice
guy. But you crossed a line. It's like, you go a party and some guy
suddenly starts yelling and waving a knife at people, then
laughs. Well, sure, ha ha, but you aren't too likely to go up and
start a business relationship with him, are you?

This discussion is obviously WAY off topic for PHP. I'm posting this
message to the list not to embarrass you further but because things
have gone so far off the road the we need to talk some serious blunt
truth here to get back on track.

I feel compassion for you. You probably really do need help with the
phpBB problem, but you've asked in such a disfunctional way that
you've alienated one of the best pools of potential helpers you could
find. You might try asking for help in the phpBB forum (where you
really should have started), but when you do I urge you to stay calm,
be sedate, don't joke, don't threaten, be cool, and be respectful.

Good luck, man.

Paul

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Brad Sumrall wrote:
> I got 5 IP breaking Federal Regulations.....
> Hehehehe
> Do you think you are not being logged?

Yeah, and I bet those IP are from Kathmandu. :-D

--
21:50:04 up 2 days, 9:07, 0 users, load average: 0.92, 0.37, 0.18
---------------------------------------------------------
Lic. Martín Marqués | SELECT 'mmarques' ||
Centro de Telemática | '' || 'unl.edu.ar';
Universidad Nacional | DBA, Programador,
del Litoral | Administrador
---------------------------------------------------------

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Need the final transaction.

Customer is pissed.

Carry the transaction to agora cart,,,,,

Whaaaa, big deal!!!!!

Brad

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Ok, maybe most of my fun will come from schmucks!

Hehehehe

75.34.61.72 from Baltimore is already giving it a whack!!!

Hehehehehe

Ok, this may be a fun night!

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Knuckle heads don't even know they are going though a proxy!!!

Hehehehe

attached mail follows:

Does anyone want to answer the ad, or am I just going to be chasing knuckle
heads?

Brad

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Yes, you are.

Better get some sleep and drink less coffee ;o)

Chris

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brad Sumrall" <Bradsftnco.com>
To: <php-generallists.php.net>
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 7:39 AM
Subject: [PHP] RE: Bounty

> Does anyone want to answer the ad, or am I just going to be chasing
> knuckle
> heads?
>
>
>
> Brad
>
>

attached mail follows:

Oh, come on.

You guys quit trying!!!!

Wuzzies!

attached mail follows:

The bounty still applies

Need a sharp php programmer on the fly.

No joke!

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Brad Sumrall wrote:
> The bounty still applies
>
>
>
> Need a sharp php programmer on the fly.
>
>
>
> No joke!

I think you've pretty much pissed off the whole list so good luck.

--
Postgresql & php tutorials
http://www.designmagick.com/

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I was honestly surprised by the number of knuckle heads who would try there
luck!

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris [mailto:dmagickgmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 2:08 AM
To: Brad Sumrall
Cc: php-generallists.php.net
Subject: Re: [PHP] RE: Bounty

Brad Sumrall wrote:
> The bounty still applies
>
>
>
> Need a sharp php programmer on the fly.
>
>
>
> No joke!

I think you've pretty much pissed off the whole list so good luck.

--
Postgresql & php tutorials
http://www.designmagick.com/

--
PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/)
To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

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I am honestly surprised by your lack of understanding. Trying to get a
freelancer by pissing them off may not really be the smartest thing to do.
;o)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brad Sumrall" <Bradsftnco.com>
To: "'Chris'" <dmagickgmail.com>
Cc: <php-generallists.php.net>
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 8:16 AM
Subject: RE: [PHP] RE: Bounty

>I was honestly surprised by the number of knuckle heads who would try there
> luck!
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris [mailto:dmagickgmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 2:08 AM
> To: Brad Sumrall
> Cc: php-generallists.php.net
> Subject: Re: [PHP] RE: Bounty
>
> Brad Sumrall wrote:
>> The bounty still applies
>>
>>
>>
>> Need a sharp php programmer on the fly.
>>
>>
>>
>> No joke!
>
> I think you've pretty much pissed off the whole list so good luck.
>
> --
> Postgresql & php tutorials
> http://www.designmagick.com/
>
> --
> PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/)
> To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
>
> --
> PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/)
> To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
>
>

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As a person who has come here in the recent past asking free lancer help and
received nothing but near-useless references even though I was asking
specific php coding related questions. Now I com to the list offering legit
funding to my supposed php friends for their expertise and received nothing
but low end hacker repossesses.

What would you think?

I am simply trying to support the list, and all I get is hate.

I cannot help it if I am properly guarded.

Attack me, and I have proper defensives.

Respond professionally and I bare rewards..

Sincerely,

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One problem: the PASSWORD DOES NOT WORK!

On 5/14/07, Brad Sumrall <BradSboatcrafts.net> wrote:
> As a person who has come here in the recent past asking free lancer help and
> received nothing but near-useless references even though I was asking
> specific php coding related questions. Now I com to the list offering legit
> funding to my supposed php friends for their expertise and received nothing
> but low end hacker repossesses.
>
>
>
> What would you think?
>
>
>
> I am simply trying to support the list, and all I get is hate.
>
>
>
> I cannot help it if I am properly guarded.
>
>
>
> Attack me, and I have proper defensives.
>
>
>
> Respond professionally and I bare rewards..
>
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
>
>
>

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Yeah, knuckle heads spoiled the fun!

-----Original Message-----
From: heavyccaseygmail.com [mailto:heavyccaseygmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 2:38 AM
To: Brad Sumrall
Cc: php-generallists.php.net
Subject: Re: [PHP] RE: Bounty

One problem: the PASSWORD DOES NOT WORK!

On 5/14/07, Brad Sumrall <BradSboatcrafts.net> wrote:
> As a person who has come here in the recent past asking free lancer help
and
> received nothing but near-useless references even though I was asking
> specific php coding related questions. Now I com to the list offering
legit
> funding to my supposed php friends for their expertise and received
nothing
> but low end hacker repossesses.
>
>
>
> What would you think?
>
>
>
> I am simply trying to support the list, and all I get is hate.
>
>
>
> I cannot help it if I am properly guarded.
>
>
>
> Attack me, and I have proper defensives.
>
>
>
> Respond professionally and I bare rewards..
>
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
>
>
>

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Brad Sumrall wrote:

> As a person who has come here in the recent past asking free lancer help and
> received nothing but near-useless references even though I was asking
> specific php coding related questions. Now I com to the list offering legit
> funding to my supposed php friends for their expertise and received nothing
> but low end hacker repossesses.

Killfile, meet Brad. He's got mental stability issues and likes clogging
up technical lists with threads of pure fuckwit quality.

Cheers,

Rich
--
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http://www.corephp.co.uk

"Never trust a computer you can't throw out of a window"

attached mail follows:

Same as earlier posting.

Had some fun with my over sight on the password posting, but snort took care
of that.

But seriously folk!

Who can "poop" a program on a bounty!

Brad

attached mail follows:

Okay, but the password doesn't work!

On 5/14/07, Brad Sumrall <Bradsftnco.com> wrote:
> Same as earlier posting.
>
> Had some fun with my over sight on the password posting, but snort took care
> of that.
>
>
>
> But seriously folk!
>
>
>
> Who can "poop" a program on a bounty!
>
>
>
> Brad
>
>

attached mail follows:

Food for thought!

Respect the freedom.

Respect the Internet!

We all benefit!

Never abuse!

attached mail follows:

Lets also add:

Respect mailing lists
Respect communities

On Tue, 2007-05-15 at 02:55 -0400, Brad Sumrall wrote:
> Food for thought!
>
> Respect the freedom.
>
> Respect the Internet!
>
> We all benefit!
>
> Never abuse!
>

All Email originating from UWC is covered by disclaimer http://www.uwc.ac.za/portal/uwc2006/content/mail_disclaimer/index.htm

attached mail follows:

You forgot one:

Don't spam!

Regards,

Chris

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brad Sumrall" <Bradsftnco.com>
To: <php-generallists.php.net>
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 8:55 AM
Subject: [PHP] RE: Bounty FYI

> Food for thought!
>
> Respect the freedom.
>
> Respect the Internet!
>
> We all benefit!
>
> Never abuse!
>
>

attached mail follows:

Brad Sumrall wrote:
> Food for thought!
>
> Respect the freedom.
>
> Respect the Internet!
>
> We all benefit!
>
> Never abuse!

Err - can you stop flooding the list with this crap? While you might
think it's funny, you're just going to piss everyone off even more.

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http://www.designmagick.com/

attached mail follows:

Brad Sumrall wrote:
> You're an idiot!

Yeh - thanks for making my point.

Now everyone knows the sort of person they are dealing with.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris [mailto:dmagickgmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 3:02 AM
> To: Brad Sumrall
> Cc: php-generallists.php.net
> Subject: Re: [PHP] RE: Bounty FYI
>
> Brad Sumrall wrote:
>> Food for thought!
>>
>> Respect the freedom.
>>
>> Respect the Internet!
>>
>> We all benefit!
>>
>> Never abuse!
>
> Err - can you stop flooding the list with this crap? While you might
> think it's funny, you're just going to piss everyone off even more.
>

--
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http://www.designmagick.com/

attached mail follows:

No, I just think you are an ass!

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris [mailto:dmagickgmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 3:02 AM
To: Brad Sumrall
Cc: php-generallists.php.net
Subject: Re: [PHP] RE: Bounty FYI

Brad Sumrall wrote:
> Food for thought!
>
> Respect the freedom.
>
> Respect the Internet!
>
> We all benefit!
>
> Never abuse!

Err - can you stop flooding the list with this crap? While you might
think it's funny, you're just going to piss everyone off even more.

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What ever script kiddy!

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris [mailto:dmagickgmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 3:09 AM
To: Brad Sumrall; 'php-generallists.php.net'
Subject: Re: [PHP] RE: Bounty FYI

Brad Sumrall wrote:
> You're an idiot!

Yeh - thanks for making my point.

Now everyone knows the sort of person they are dealing with.

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ROFL... you really made my day... it's about 9am, been working for 2 hours
now, and the day is great already!

Worked for the DoD and stuff like that, and still doesn't know how to
behave. You remind me of a 14 years old guy I knew from Bahrain... always
trying to "mess" with the big boys.

Go play outside :o) Mr DoD *ROFL*

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brad Sumrall" <Bradsftnco.com>
To: "'Christian Haensel'" <phpchftp.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 9:06 AM
Subject: RE: [PHP] RE: Bounty FYI

> When did I request money?
>
> Go hit your Webster's schmuck!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Christian Haensel [mailto:phpchftp.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 3:01 AM
> To: Brad Sumrall; php-generallists.php.net
> Subject: Re: [PHP] RE: Bounty FYI
>
> You forgot one:
>
> Don't spam!
>
> Regards,
>
> Chris
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brad Sumrall" <Bradsftnco.com>
> To: <php-generallists.php.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 8:55 AM
> Subject: [PHP] RE: Bounty FYI
>
>
>> Food for thought!
>>
>> Respect the freedom.
>>
>> Respect the Internet!
>>
>> We all benefit!
>>
>> Never abuse!
>>
>>
>
>

attached mail follows:

Kinda says it all really.

Oh - one other point.

I don't think a supposed "DoD network security specialist" would ever
*really* post server login details to a mailing list - do you?

Hmm.

Anyway.

Brad Sumrall wrote:
> What ever script kiddy!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris [mailto:dmagickgmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 3:09 AM
> To: Brad Sumrall; 'php-generallists.php.net'
> Subject: Re: [PHP] RE: Bounty FYI
>
> Brad Sumrall wrote:
>> You're an idiot!
>
> Yeh - thanks for making my point.
>
> Now everyone knows the sort of person they are dealing with.
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Chris [mailto:dmagickgmail.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 3:02 AM
>> To: Brad Sumrall
>> Cc: php-generallists.php.net
>> Subject: Re: [PHP] RE: Bounty FYI
>>
>> Brad Sumrall wrote:
>>> Food for thought!
>>>
>>> Respect the freedom.
>>>
>>> Respect the Internet!
>>>
>>> We all benefit!
>>>
>>> Never abuse!
>> Err - can you stop flooding the list with this crap? While you might
>> think it's funny, you're just going to piss everyone off even more.
>>
>
>

--
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http://www.designmagick.com/

attached mail follows:

Silly rabbit,
Tricks are for kids!

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris [mailto:dmagickgmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 3:19 AM
To: Brad Sumrall
Cc: php-generallists.php.net
Subject: Re: [PHP] RE: Bounty FYI

Kinda says it all really.

Oh - one other point.

I don't think a supposed "DoD network security specialist" would ever
*really* post server login details to a mailing list - do you?

Hmm.

Anyway.

--
Postgresql & php tutorials
http://www.designmagick.com/

attached mail follows:

Just having fun with the kids!

-----Original Message-----
From: Christian Haensel [mailto:phpchftp.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 3:18 AM
To: php-generallists.php.net
Subject: Re: [PHP] RE: Bounty FYI

ROFL... you really made my day... it's about 9am, been working for 2 hours
now, and the day is great already!

Worked for the DoD and stuff like that, and still doesn't know how to
behave. You remind me of a 14 years old guy I knew from Bahrain... always
trying to "mess" with the big boys.

Go play outside :o) Mr DoD *ROFL*

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brad Sumrall" <Bradsftnco.com>
To: "'Christian Haensel'" <phpchftp.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 9:06 AM
Subject: RE: [PHP] RE: Bounty FYI

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Oh, come on, come to daddy!

What cha got!

Late night in Fort Lauderdale! Hehehehehehehe

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris [mailto:dmagickgmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 3:19 AM
To: Brad Sumrall
Cc: php-generallists.php.net
Subject: Re: [PHP] RE: Bounty FYI

Kinda says it all really.

Oh - one other point.

I don't think a supposed "DoD network security specialist" would ever
*really* post server login details to a mailing list - do you?

Hmm.

Anyway.

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Your are layer 7
I am layer 2-3

You are WAY outside of your expertise with me my friend.

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris [mailto:dmagickgmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 3:19 AM
To: Brad Sumrall
Cc: php-generallists.php.net
Subject: Re: [PHP] RE: Bounty FYI

Kinda says it all really.

Oh - one other point.

I don't think a supposed "DoD network security specialist" would ever
*really* post server login details to a mailing list - do you?

Hmm.

Anyway.

--
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Christian Haensel wrote:

<Stuff>

         +-------------------+ .:\:\:/:/:.
         | PLEASE DO NOT | :.:\:\:/:/:.:
         | FEED THE TROLLS | :=.' - - '.=:
         | | '=(\ 9 9 /)='
         | Thank you, | ( (_) )
         | Management | /`-vvv-'\
         +-------------------+ / \
                 | | / /|,,,,,|\ \
                 | | /_// /^\ \\_\
   xx | | |/ WW( ( ) )WW
   \||||/ | | \| __\,,\ /,,/__
    \||/ | | | (______Y______)
/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\//\/\\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
==================================================================

Cheers
--
David Robley

An elephant: A mouse built to government specifications.
Today is Setting Orange, the 62nd day of Discord in the YOLD 3173.

attached mail follows:

Cheers!

-----Original Message-----
From: David Robley [mailto:robleydozemail.com.au]
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 4:02 AM
To: php-generallists.php.net
Subject: Re: [PHP] RE: Bounty FYI

Christian Haensel wrote:

<Stuff>

Cheers
--
David Robley

An elephant: A mouse built to government specifications.
Today is Setting Orange, the 62nd day of Discord in the YOLD 3173.

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that's great :D
if you don't mind I posted it on my blog
http://www.syntaxerror.hu/index.php?page=index&cmd_div=szoveg&cmd=show&cmd_arg=65

(the post's intro text in Hungarian means something like this: "I just
received this from the php-general mailing list after someone sent
numerous idiot mails (names and emails deleted by me)")

2007. 05. 15, kedd keltezÃ©ssel 17.31-kor David Robley ezt Ãrta:
> Christian Haensel wrote:
>
> <Stuff>
>
> +-------------------+ .:\:\:/:/:.
> | PLEASE DO NOT | :.:\:\:/:/:.:
> | FEED THE TROLLS | :=.' - - '.=:
> | | '=(\ 9 9 /)='
> | Thank you, | ( (_) )
> | Management | /`-vvv-'\
> +-------------------+ / \
> | | / /|,,,,,|\ \
> | | /_// /^\ \\_\
> xx | | |/ WW( ( ) )WW
> \||||/ | | \| __\,,\ /,,/__
> \||/ | | | (______Y______)
> /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\//\/\\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
> ==================================================================
>
>
>
> Cheers
> --
> David Robley
>
> An elephant: A mouse built to government specifications.
> Today is Setting Orange, the 62nd day of Discord in the YOLD 3173.
>

attached mail follows:

Howdy,

I just wanted to say, to all who responded, many many thanks for the
help. I greatly appreciate it. I have not made my decision just yet, but
it has been great hearing the advice and reading about all the different
options available... Well, anyay, thanks! This list has been a life
saver. :)

Cheers,
Micky

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After my last week's email on timezones I have come to the decision that it
is far more sensible to cease using fixed offsets from UTC (e.g. +2:00) and
to use the proper zones e.g. "Europe/London".

After doing some reading up on the subject as I am not too familiar with it,
I understand that it is necessary to keep the local DB up-to-date, for PHP
this comes in the form of PECL's timezonedb.

Since we distribute PHP as a part of a larger product, we would be
responsible for keeping this up-to-date - so what I need to know is:
* where does the php_timezonedb.dll need to be located and does it need to
be in php.ini - I can't find mention of the file in the default installation
* how often would we actually need to update the DB - PECL says "You should
only install this extension in case you need to get a later version of the
timezone database than the one that ships with PHP." - does this imply that
we might actually be fine to continue using the default installed DB for the
foreseeable future?

I'd appreciate any guidance on this - TIA.
--rob

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