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php-general Digest 29 Apr 2008 04:48:43 -0000 Issue 5430

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php-general Digest 29 Apr 2008 04:48:43 -0000 Issue 5430

Topics (messages 273648 through 273682):

Re: PHP debugger
        273648 by: Jignesh Thummar
        273649 by: James Dempster
        273650 by: Daniel Brown
        273651 by: Thijs Lensselink
        273653 by: Jason Pruim
        273654 by: J. Manuel Velasco - UBILIBET
        273655 by: Jason Pruim
        273656 by: Daniel Brown

Re: newbie with php/HTML/HTTP question
273652 by: Andrew Ballard

SMS Cellular Text Messaging
        273657 by: Al
        273659 by: Jay Blanchard
        273660 by: Al
        273661 by: Per Jessen
        273662 by: Jay Blanchard
        273666 by: Jay Blanchard
        273674 by: Jay Blanchard
        273678 by: Richard Lynch
        273681 by: paragasu

Re: SOAP and nested input
273658 by: Richard Lynch

Making an array from delimited data
        273663 by: Joe Harman
        273665 by: Nathan Nobbe
        273667 by: Shawn McKenzie
        273668 by: Joe Harman
        273670 by: Nathan Nobbe
        273671 by: Joe Harman
        273675 by: Richard Lynch

Re: OS need anything for mail() to work?
        273664 by: Richard Lynch
        273673 by: Jason Pruim
        273676 by: Shawn McKenzie
        273677 by: Jason Pruim
        273679 by: Richard Lynch

SEE MY LATE JANGO JIMMY(Snr) BUSINESS CARD,I SEND MY PICTURES WHEN I HEAR FROM YOU.
        273669 by: Acct.yussuf Jimmy
        273672 by: Shawn McKenzie
        273680 by: Wolf

web based chat app
273682 by: paragasu

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Best one is Xdebug .. But probably i would like to try this one also.

- Jignesh

On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 12:00 PM, J. Manuel Velasco - UBILIBET <
techubilibet.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Anybody knows a good debugger for PHP and basic usage?
>
> I've found: http://dd.cron.ru/dbg/, what do you think about it ?
>
> Thanks.
> --
>

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I'd suggest Xdebug <http://xdebug.org/>

--
/James

On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 12:00 PM, J. Manuel Velasco - UBILIBET <
techubilibet.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Anybody knows a good debugger for PHP and basic usage?
>
> I've found: http://dd.cron.ru/dbg/, what do you think about it ?
>
> Thanks.
> --
>

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On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 7:00 AM, J. Manuel Velasco - UBILIBET
<techubilibet.com> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> Anybody knows a good debugger for PHP and basic usage?

There's a pretty good one known as Jason Pruim. ;-P

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Quoting Daniel Brown <parasanegmail.com>:

> On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 7:00 AM, J. Manuel Velasco - UBILIBET
> <techubilibet.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Anybody knows a good debugger for PHP and basic usage?
>
> There's a pretty good one known as Jason Pruim. ;-P

ROFL!

>
> --
> </Daniel P. Brown>
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>
>

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On Apr 28, 2008, at 10:32 AM, Thijs Lensselink wrote:

> Quoting Daniel Brown <parasanegmail.com>:
>
>> On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 7:00 AM, J. Manuel Velasco - UBILIBET
>> <techubilibet.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Anybody knows a good debugger for PHP and basic usage?
>>
>> There's a pretty good one known as Jason Pruim. ;-P
>
> ROFL!

Yall have too much time on your hands! :P

>
>
>>
>> --
>> </Daniel P. Brown>
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>> $59.99/mo. with no contract!
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>>
>>
>
>
>
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>

Jason Pruim
Raoset Inc.
Technology Manager
MQC Specialist
3251 132nd ave
Holland, MI, 49424-9337
www.raoset.com
japruimraoset.com

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Ok, so I am going to try this one, Jason Pruim, let's check how it works
... :p

PROBLEM DESCRIPTION:
In my whois web-app, when a EU doamin is queried, whois.pl perl script
is lunched and I got the right result to my PHP script I the result is
shown at the web.
If I do the query to a ES domain, other whois.pl script is lunched, but
passthru doesn't execute it.
Both scripts are almost the same, they are in the same file structure,
same machine, same permissions...

The most strange is that I logged the command petition and If I copy and
paste exaclty the same that is passed to passthru, the command for the
whois to ESNIC is executed in the command line and shows the result.

Collegues told me to check the ENV, permissions, and so on, I did with
no results, also, the other perl script that is almost the same is
executed, so I feel very very lost.

Three files attached:
whois_es.pl -> perl script to query whois in ESNIC
whois_eu.pl -> perl script to query whois in EURID
container.php -> intermediate page where the commands are build and
passthru is executed.

Thank you very much for any hint. I feel lost almost one week with this BUG.

Jason Pruim escribió:
>
> On Apr 28, 2008, at 10:32 AM, Thijs Lensselink wrote:
>
>> Quoting Daniel Brown <parasanegmail.com>:
>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 7:00 AM, J. Manuel Velasco - UBILIBET
>>> <techubilibet.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> Anybody knows a good debugger for PHP and basic usage?
>>>
>>> There's a pretty good one known as Jason Pruim. ;-P
>>
>> ROFL!
>
>
> Yall have too much time on your hands! :P
>
>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> </Daniel P. Brown>
>>> Dedicated Servers - Intel 2.4GHz w/2TB bandwidth/mo. starting at just
>>> $59.99/mo. with no contract!
>>> Dedicated servers, VPS, and hosting from $2.50/mo.
>>>
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>>> To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>>
>>
>
> --
>
> Jason Pruim
> Raoset Inc.
> Technology Manager
> MQC Specialist
> 3251 132nd ave
> Holland, MI, 49424-9337
> www.raoset.com
> japruimraoset.com
>
>
>
>

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On Apr 28, 2008, at 10:58 AM, J. Manuel Velasco - UBILIBET wrote:

> Ok, so I am going to try this one, Jason Pruim, let's check how it
> works ... :p
>
> PROBLEM DESCRIPTION:
> In my whois web-app, when a EU doamin is queried, whois.pl perl
> script is lunched and I got the right result to my PHP script I the
> result is shown at the web.
> If I do the query to a ES domain, other whois.pl script is lunched,
> but passthru doesn't execute it.
> Both scripts are almost the same, they are in the same file
> structure, same machine, same permissions...

Have you tried to use a program to compare the files? Make sure that
only the necessary lines are different?
>
>
> The most strange is that I logged the command petition and If I copy
> and paste exaclty the same that is passed to passthru, the command
> for the whois to ESNIC is executed in the command line and shows the
> result.
>
> Collegues told me to check the ENV, permissions, and so on, I did
> with no results, also, the other perl script that is almost the same
> is executed, so I feel very very lost.
>
> Three files attached:
> whois_es.pl -> perl script to query whois in ESNIC
> whois_eu.pl -> perl script to query whois in EURID
> container.php -> intermediate page where the commands are build
> and passthru is executed.

Is there any particular reason you are using different perl scripts
instead of a simple whois script for all of them?

Also... the only attachment was your logo :)

>
>
> Thank you very much for any hint. I feel lost almost one week with
> this BUG.
>
> Jason Pruim escribió:
>>
>>
>> On Apr 28, 2008, at 10:32 AM, Thijs Lensselink wrote:
>>
>>> Quoting Daniel Brown <parasanegmail.com>:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 7:00 AM, J. Manuel Velasco - UBILIBET
>>>> <techubilibet.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> Anybody knows a good debugger for PHP and basic usage?
>>>>
>>>> There's a pretty good one known as Jason Pruim. ;-P
>>>
>>> ROFL!
>>
>>
>> Yall have too much time on your hands! :P
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> </Daniel P. Brown>
>>>> Dedicated Servers - Intel 2.4GHz w/2TB bandwidth/mo. starting at
>>>> just
>>>> $59.99/mo. with no contract!
>>>> Dedicated servers, VPS, and hosting from $2.50/mo.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/)
>>>> To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
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>>> To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Jason Pruim
>> Raoset Inc.
>> Technology Manager
>> MQC Specialist
>> 3251 132nd ave
>> Holland, MI, 49424-9337
>> www.raoset.com
>> japruimraoset.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> <Manucastellano.jpg>

Jason Pruim
Raoset Inc.
Technology Manager
MQC Specialist
3251 132nd ave
Holland, MI, 49424-9337
www.raoset.com
japruimraoset.com

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On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 12:08 PM, Jason Pruim <japruimraoset.com> wrote:
>
> Also... the only attachment was your logo :)

The list strips non-text attachments. Amazingly, embedded
graphics still come through.

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On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 5:44 PM, Rod Clay <rclaycolumbus.rr.com> wrote:
> I've written my php script to accept either:
>
> 1) url parameters, when first invoked (so in this case I'm getting
> variables out of the $_GET global array), but then I create a form with
> method=PUT and, when this form is submitted and comes back into this same
> php script, I'm looking for
>
> 2) variables in the $_PUT global array
>
> However, I tested this just now and, for some reason I can't fathom, though
> the form I create has method=PUT, when it is submitted and comes back to my
> php script, $_SERVER['REQUEST_METHOD'] still contains "GET".
>
> Am I missing something fairly obvious here (quite possible!!)?
>
> Once my php script is invoked with parameters in the url (i.e., implicit
> GET method), am I not able to create a form with method=PUT and have this
> form come back into my php script with values in the $_PUT global array??
>
> Thanks for any help anyone can give me! I'm stumped!
>
> Rod Clay
> rclaycolumbus.rr.com

First off, I don't think browsers support sending form data via PUT
(unless you use the XmlHTTPRequest calls usually used for AJAX
requests), so regardless of whether you specify method="put" in your
form tag, the request is still sent via GET. I suspect that basically
the browsers say that if the attribute equals "post" then send via
POST; otherwise send via GET. As I understand it, the PUT method is
for sending a document to be stored at the requested URI. As such, a
PHP script couldn't really be handling a PUT request because if the
URI for the script exists, the content in the PUT request should
replace the content of the URI. (I guess technically you might be able
to swing it through something with mod_rewrite where a PHP script
could handle the logic of storing (PUT) or retrieving (GET) the
document.)

http://www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc2616/rfc2616-sec9.html#sec9.6

"The fundamental difference between the POST and PUT requests is
reflected in the different meaning of the Request-URI. The URI in a
POST request identifies the resource that will handle the enclosed
entity. That resource might be a data-accepting process, a gateway to
some other protocol, or a separate entity that accepts annotations. In
contrast, the URI in a PUT request identifies the entity enclosed with
the request -- the user agent knows what URI is intended and the
server MUST NOT attempt to apply the request to some other resource.
If the server desires that the request be applied to a different URI,
it MUST send a 301 (Moved Permanently) response; the user agent MAY
then make its own decision regarding whether or not to redirect the
request."

Secondly, there isn't a $_PUT superglobal in PHP.

http://us3.php.net/manual/en/reserved.variables.php

Andrew

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Anyone enlighten me about sending SMS text messages via sendmail or or just php mail()?

I've been Googling, etc. and everything I've found so far, comes up with for-fee services.

I can send messages to my cellphone with sendmail but the regular email format is dumb at the
cellphone.

Al.......

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[snip]
Anyone enlighten me about sending SMS text messages via sendmail or or
just php mail()?

I've been Googling, etc. and everything I've found so far, comes up with
for-fee services.
[/snip]

SMS messaging requires a gateway, hence the for-fee services.

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I didn't word my question well. I know about the following, etc. And, I know they charge their
customers.

> Cingular: phonenumbercingularme.com
> Sprint: phonenumbermessaging.sprintpcs.com
> Verizon: phonenumbervtext.com
> Nextel: phonenumbermessaging.nextel.com

I want to send a pure SMS via these gateways without the regular email headers, etc.

Jay Blanchard wrote:
> [snip]
> Anyone enlighten me about sending SMS text messages via sendmail or or
> just php mail()?
>
> I've been Googling, etc. and everything I've found so far, comes up with
> for-fee services.
> [/snip]
>
> SMS messaging requires a gateway, hence the for-fee services.

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Al wrote:

> Anyone enlighten me about sending SMS text messages via sendmail or or
> just php mail()?
>
> I've been Googling, etc. and everything I've found so far, comes up
> with for-fee services.

See smsclient. We've been using that for three or four years.

/Per Jessen, ZÃ¼rich

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[snip]
I didn't word my question well. I know about the following, etc. And, I
know they charge their
customers.

> Cingular: phonenumbercingularme.com
> Sprint: phonenumbermessaging.sprintpcs.com
> Verizon: phonenumbervtext.com
> Nextel: phonenumbermessaging.nextel.com

I want to send a pure SMS via these gateways without the regular email
headers, etc.
[/snip]

It is the same answer, you have to use an SMS gateway. Using the above
is an additional layer or two.

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[snip]
Do these gateways get paid? I can send a text message to phonenumbervtext.com using sendmail. So it appears Verizon is just charging my phone's account.

Is that the case with the 3d party gateways?
[/snip]

As is the case with everything telecom someone is going to make money off of it. The subscriber pays for sending and receiving texts with all carriers, if not explicitly as part of their monthly plan. Gateways are but one "hop" in the message chain.

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[snip]
Do you have any experience with any of 3d party gateways?
[/snip]

No, we own our own gateway

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On Mon, April 28, 2008 2:39 pm, Al wrote:
> I didn't word my question well. I know about the following, etc. And,
> I know they charge their
> customers.
>
>> Cingular: phonenumbercingularme.com
>> Sprint: phonenumbermessaging.sprintpcs.com
>> Verizon: phonenumbervtext.com
>> Nextel: phonenumbermessaging.nextel.com

If you send more than a few through any of those, you'll start having
your messages not get through.

> I want to send a pure SMS via these gateways without the regular email
> headers, etc.

Those are just there for the convenience of normal users who send a
text or two without having an SMS phone.

If you want any kind of volume, you pay a gateway.

Or you could invest a few billion and build your own. :-)

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i use our local email-to-sms service. it is not reliable. more often than
not,
it is not delivered to user. I did found kannel project (www.kannel.org),
opensource
gateway. but still not sure how it going to work or how to roll my own
gateway.

i guess, even we have our own gateway. we have to make deal with local ISP
anyway and
it cost money. if anyone out there know how. i am really interested to
know...

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On Mon, April 28, 2008 4:52 am, Emil Edeholt wrote:
> If I need to pass nested input to a SOAP function; For example a
> function that requires these parameters:
>
> <foo>bar</foo>
> <foonest>
> <barnest>foobar</barnest>
> </foonest>
>
> Should I simply nest two arrays to the php soap function, i.e:
> $client->foo(array("foo" => "bar", "foonest" => array("barnest" =>
> "foobar"));

Should work, I think...

> The exception I get is: Catchable fatal error: Object of class
> stdClass
> could not be converted to string.

This means you tried to echo/print or embed into a string some kind of
php built-in Object, or some on-the-fly object you created.

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I have some data that I pull from a database that is in the following format:

-------------------------------------------------------------
Gauge Style: Auto Meter Pro-Comp
Tachometer Usage: Standard
Gauge Series: Analog
Gauge Range: 0-11,000 rpm
Gauge Diameter (in): 5 in.
Gauge Diameter (mm): 127.00mm
Sweep: Full sweep
-------------------------------------------------------------

I want the array to end up like this
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
$data['Gauge Style'] = Auto Meter Pro-Comp
$data['Tachometer Usage'] = Standard
$data['Gauge Series'] = 0-11,000 rpm

I know I can use explode on on set of data... but up do you do it line by line?

Thanks for your help

--
Joe Harman

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On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 1:44 PM, Joe Harman <cjharmangmail.com> wrote:

> I have some data that I pull from a database that is in the following
> format:
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------
> Gauge Style: Auto Meter Pro-Comp
> Tachometer Usage: Standard
> Gauge Series: Analog
> Gauge Range: 0-11,000 rpm
> Gauge Diameter (in): 5 in.
> Gauge Diameter (mm): 127.00mm
> Sweep: Full sweep
> -------------------------------------------------------------
>
> I want the array to end up like this
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> $data['Gauge Style'] = Auto Meter Pro-Comp
> $data['Tachometer Usage'] = Standard
> $data['Gauge Series'] = 0-11,000 rpm
>
> I know I can use explode on on set of data... but up do you do it line by
> line?

foreach(explode("\n", trim($dbData)) as $curLine) {
  $parsedLine = explode(':', $curline)) {
    $data[$parsedLine[0]] = $parsedLine[1];
  }
}

-nathan

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Joe Harman wrote:
> I have some data that I pull from a database that is in the following format:
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------
> Gauge Style: Auto Meter Pro-Comp
> Tachometer Usage: Standard
> Gauge Series: Analog
> Gauge Range: 0-11,000 rpm
> Gauge Diameter (in): 5 in.
> Gauge Diameter (mm): 127.00mm
> Sweep: Full sweep
> -------------------------------------------------------------
>
> I want the array to end up like this
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> $data['Gauge Style'] = Auto Meter Pro-Comp
> $data['Tachometer Usage'] = Standard
> $data['Gauge Series'] = 0-11,000 rpm
>
> I know I can use explode on on set of data... but up do you do it line by line?
>
> Thanks for your help
>

The following is one field from the db, or each line is a field or what?

Gauge Style: Auto Meter Pro-Comp
Tachometer Usage: Standard
Gauge Series: Analog
Gauge Range: 0-11,000 rpm
Gauge Diameter (in): 5 in.
Gauge Diameter (mm): 127.00mm
Sweep: Full sweep

-Shawn

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this is the complete data that was initially submitted through a textarea field.

On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 2:56 PM, Shawn McKenzie <nospammckenzies.net> wrote:
>
> Joe Harman wrote:
>
> > I have some data that I pull from a database that is in the following
> format:
> >
> > -------------------------------------------------------------
> > Gauge Style: Auto Meter Pro-Comp
> > Tachometer Usage: Standard
> > Gauge Series: Analog
> > Gauge Range: 0-11,000 rpm
> > Gauge Diameter (in): 5 in.
> > Gauge Diameter (mm): 127.00mm
> > Sweep: Full sweep
> > -------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > I want the array to end up like this
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > $data['Gauge Style'] = Auto Meter Pro-Comp
> > $data['Tachometer Usage'] = Standard
> > $data['Gauge Series'] = 0-11,000 rpm
> >
> > I know I can use explode on on set of data... but up do you do it line by
> line?
> >
> > Thanks for your help
> >
> >
>
> The following is one field from the db, or each line is a field or what?
>
>
> Gauge Style: Auto Meter Pro-Comp
> Tachometer Usage: Standard
> Gauge Series: Analog
> Gauge Range: 0-11,000 rpm
> Gauge Diameter (in): 5 in.
> Gauge Diameter (mm): 127.00mm
> Sweep: Full sweep
>
>
> -Shawn
>
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>
>

--
Joe Harman

SCP Performance Parts Warehouse
3475 High Ridge Blvd
High Ridge, MO 63049
Office : (636) 677-1320
Cell : (269) 277-0717

http://www.scpracingparts.com

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On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 1:58 PM, Joe Harman <joescpracingparts.com> wrote:

> this is the complete data that was initially submitted through a textarea
> field.
>

just to clarify my example assumes $dbData is a single string. if the info
you posted is getting stored in a single field it should work just fine.

-nathan

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Thanks guys... that help me out a lot... i was thinking too hard on ... LOL

have a great day!
Joe

On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 3:01 PM, Nathan Nobbe <quickshiftingmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 1:58 PM, Joe Harman <joescpracingparts.com> wrote:
>
> > this is the complete data that was initially submitted through a textarea
> field.
> >
>
> just to clarify my example assumes $dbData is a single string. if the info
> you posted is getting stored in a single field it should work just fine.
>
> -nathan
>

--
Joe Harman

SCP Performance Parts Warehouse
3475 High Ridge Blvd
High Ridge, MO 63049
Office : (636) 677-1320
Cell : (269) 277-0717

http://www.scpracingparts.com

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On Mon, April 28, 2008 2:44 pm, Joe Harman wrote:
> I have some data that I pull from a database that is in the following
> format:
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------
> Gauge Style: Auto Meter Pro-Comp
> Tachometer Usage: Standard
> Gauge Series: Analog
> Gauge Range: 0-11,000 rpm
> Gauge Diameter (in): 5 in.
> Gauge Diameter (mm): 127.00mm
> Sweep: Full sweep
> -------------------------------------------------------------
>
> I want the array to end up like this

preg_match_all('/^([^:]:(.*)$/msiU', $db_data, $data);
var_dump($data);

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On Fri, April 25, 2008 3:44 pm, Brian Dunning wrote:
> Is there any way for PHP to know that this email is not going through?

You could, perhaps, hack your MTA to notify something somewhere that
PHP can check...

But it's really out of PHP's hands at this point.

If you put a letter in a mailbox, and the USPS fails to deliver it, do
you really expect to get notified?

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On Apr 28, 2008, at 3:47 PM, Richard Lynch wrote:

> On Fri, April 25, 2008 3:44 pm, Brian Dunning wrote:
>> Is there any way for PHP to know that this email is not going
>> through?
>
> You could, perhaps, hack your MTA to notify something somewhere that
> PHP can check...
>
> But it's really out of PHP's hands at this point.
>
> If you put a letter in a mailbox, and the USPS fails to deliver it, do
> you really expect to get notified?

If you're in the US (Hence the USPS) and you put first class postage
on it and include your return address then yes since it's built in if
the letter is not deliverable as addressed. If it's part of a
presorted mailing (not first class) then you have to pay additional
fees for it to be returned and specifically request it by adding
"Address Service requested" or "Return service requested"

But none of that has a lick of salt to do with PHP just throwing out
my knowledge since that what I do in my day job :)

Jason Pruim
Raoset Inc.
Technology Manager
MQC Specialist
3251 132nd ave
Holland, MI, 49424-9337
www.raoset.com
japruimraoset.com

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Jason Pruim wrote:
>
> On Apr 28, 2008, at 3:47 PM, Richard Lynch wrote:
>
>> On Fri, April 25, 2008 3:44 pm, Brian Dunning wrote:
>>> Is there any way for PHP to know that this email is not going through?
>>
>> You could, perhaps, hack your MTA to notify something somewhere that
>> PHP can check...
>>
>> But it's really out of PHP's hands at this point.
>>
>> If you put a letter in a mailbox, and the USPS fails to deliver it, do
>> you really expect to get notified?
>
> If you're in the US (Hence the USPS) and you put first class postage on
> it and include your return address then yes since it's built in if the
> letter is not deliverable as addressed. If it's part of a presorted
> mailing (not first class) then you have to pay additional fees for it to
> be returned and specifically request it by adding "Address Service
> requested" or "Return service requested"
>
> But none of that has a lick of salt to do with PHP just throwing out my
> knowledge since that what I do in my day job :)

You're a mail carrier in your day job? That explains some things :-)
What are you doing on the computer while you're supposed to be
delivering mail?

>
> --
>
> Jason Pruim
> Raoset Inc.
> Technology Manager
> MQC Specialist
> 3251 132nd ave
> Holland, MI, 49424-9337
> www.raoset.com
> japruimraoset.com
>
>
>

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On Apr 28, 2008, at 4:13 PM, Shawn McKenzie wrote:

> Jason Pruim wrote:
>> On Apr 28, 2008, at 3:47 PM, Richard Lynch wrote:
>>> On Fri, April 25, 2008 3:44 pm, Brian Dunning wrote:
>>>> Is there any way for PHP to know that this email is not going
>>>> through?
>>>
>>> You could, perhaps, hack your MTA to notify something somewhere that
>>> PHP can check...
>>>
>>> But it's really out of PHP's hands at this point.
>>>
>>> If you put a letter in a mailbox, and the USPS fails to deliver
>>> it, do
>>> you really expect to get notified?
>> If you're in the US (Hence the USPS) and you put first class
>> postage on it and include your return address then yes since it's
>> built in if the letter is not deliverable as addressed. If it's
>> part of a presorted mailing (not first class) then you have to pay
>> additional fees for it to be returned and specifically request it
>> by adding "Address Service requested" or "Return service requested"
>> But none of that has a lick of salt to do with PHP just throwing
>> out my knowledge since that what I do in my day job :)
>
> You're a mail carrier in your day job? That explains some
> things :-) What are you doing on the computer while you're supposed
> to be delivering mail?

Go to my website and educate your self :P I process presorted mailings
for companies... Something the uninformed call "Junk Mail" but in the
industry it's called "Improperly targeted direct mail" :)

>
>
>> --
>> Jason Pruim
>> Raoset Inc.
>> Technology Manager
>> MQC Specialist
>> 3251 132nd ave
>> Holland, MI, 49424-9337
>> www.raoset.com
>> japruimraoset.com
>
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>

Jason Pruim
Raoset Inc.
Technology Manager
MQC Specialist
3251 132nd ave
Holland, MI, 49424-9337
www.raoset.com
japruimraoset.com

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On Mon, April 28, 2008 3:09 pm, Jason Pruim wrote:
>
> On Apr 28, 2008, at 3:47 PM, Richard Lynch wrote:
>
>> On Fri, April 25, 2008 3:44 pm, Brian Dunning wrote:
>>> Is there any way for PHP to know that this email is not going
>>> through?
>>
>> You could, perhaps, hack your MTA to notify something somewhere that
>> PHP can check...
>>
>> But it's really out of PHP's hands at this point.
>>
>> If you put a letter in a mailbox, and the USPS fails to deliver it,
>> do
>> you really expect to get notified?
>
> If you're in the US (Hence the USPS) and you put first class postage
> on it and include your return address then yes since it's built in if
> the letter is not deliverable as addressed. If it's part of a
> presorted mailing (not first class) then you have to pay additional
> fees for it to be returned and specifically request it by adding
> "Address Service requested" or "Return service requested"
>
> But none of that has a lick of salt to do with PHP just throwing out
> my knowledge since that what I do in my day job :)

Apparently, you live in an area where USPS doesn't lose/mis-deliver
mail routinely... :-v

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Dear,

I am yussuf Jimmy,from Togo Republique.I will be very glad if you do assist me to download the sum of ( USD$15.8Million)into your bank account. I got your contact through a Global Network and i decided to communicate with you in a good manner.

I will compensat you for effort after the tarnsfer is done

email is:acct.yussufjimmyyahoo.de

Thanks
Acct.yussuf

---------------------------------------------------

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album 28/04/08

Comment afficher les photos :

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Photos de Acct.yussuf
Si le lien ci-dessus ne fonctionne pas, sÃ©lectionnez le lien ci-dessous Ã l'aide du curseur. Ensuite, copiez-le et collez-le dans la barre d'adresse de votre navigateur et appuyez sur la touche Â«Â EntrÃ©eÂ Â» ou Â« RetourÂ Â» de votre clavier.

http://www1.snapfish.fr/share/p=199281209411671420/l=365045656/g=128984847/cobrandOid=1015/otsc=SYE/otsi=SALB

2) Entrez votre nom et votre adresse e-mail puis choisissez un mot de passe.. Cela permet d'assurer la confidentialitÃ© de vos photos et dÃ©finit votre compte personnel protÃ©gÃ© par un mot de passe sur Snapfish.
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4) Vous pouvez aussi commencer par partager mes photos en ligne. C'est une excellente faÃ§on de rester en contact avec ses proches.

attached mail follows:

Acct.yussuf Jimmy wrote:
>
> Dear,
>
> I am yussuf Jimmy,from Togo Republique.I will be very glad if you do assist me to download the sum of ( USD$15.8Million)into your bank account. I got your contact through a Global Network and i decided to communicate with you in a good manner.
>
> I will compensat you for effort after the tarnsfer is done
>
> email is:acct.yussufjimmyyahoo.de
>
> Thanks
> Acct.yussuf
>
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
> Afficher mes photos !
>
> Je vous invite Ã regarder le(s) album(s) photos suivant(s) :
>
> album 28/04/08
>
> Comment afficher les photos :
>
> http://www1.snapfish.fr/getimageforshare/p=118281209411671735/l=365045867/s=221172724/t=ALB/g=128984847/otsc=SYE/otsi=SALB
>
> 1) Consultez le lien ci-dessous pour accÃ©der Ã Snapfish.
>
> Photos de Acct.yussuf
> Si le lien ci-dessus ne fonctionne pas, sÃ©lectionnez le lien ci-dessous Ã l'aide du curseur. Ensuite, copiez-le et collez-le dans la barre d'adresse de votre navigateur et appuyez sur la touche Â« EntrÃ©e Â» ou Â« Retour Â» de votre clavier.
>
> http://www1.snapfish.fr/share/p=199281209411671420/l=365045656/g=128984847/cobrandOid=1015/otsc=SYE/otsi=SALB
>
> 2) Entrez votre nom et votre adresse e-mail puis choisissez un mot de passe.. Cela permet d'assurer la confidentialitÃ© de vos photos et dÃ©finit votre compte personnel protÃ©gÃ© par un mot de passe sur Snapfish.
> 3) Si vous crÃ©ez votre compte personnel Snapfish, vous pouvez commander des tirages ou des agrandissements de vos photos au tarif compÃ©titif de 0,09 € l'unitÃ©. Il suffit de cliquer sur Â« Commander des tirages Â» pendant que vous visionnez les photos pour passer une commande.
> 4) Vous pouvez aussi commencer par partager mes photos en ligne. C'est une excellente faÃ§on de rester en contact avec ses proches.
>
>
>
Wow, hi yusuff Jimmy!

I will be very glad if you download the sum of (USD$15.8Million) into my
bank account!

-abdul Shawn

attached mail follows:

> >
> Wow, hi yusuff Jimmy!
>
> I will be very glad if you download the sum of (USD$15.8Million) into my
> bank account!
>
> -abdul Shawn

Anyone else notice that his ID looked Wesley Snipes?

At least we know where his money came from! ;)

attached mail follows:

i am planning to integrate chat application on my website.
the idea is to make online user on my website to chat to each other.
it is using PHP5+jQuery, i want it to be as light as possible. I am not sure
about the database to use, but i have 3 options.. file based, sqlite3 or
mysql5.

i am thinking to use sqlite3 because it is fast but afraid it cannot handle
many user
request (i remember reading it is not so good for multiple user). It is also
possible to use
memory based storage /dev/shm (in debian based, i read somewhere - never
tried yet)

another issue is how to make it light.The chat script should refresh
every 200ms to get the best result or even 1 second still bring quite a
load to the web server.
anyone ever run a web based application?

or any chat based api i can use out there to save server resource?

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