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Subject: Re: Redhat Linux, Mailman and Sendmail
From: Bennett Todd (betrahul.net)
Date: Tue Apr 04 2000 - 16:20:07 CDT

2000-04-04-17:09:54 Brad Knowles:
> > ext2fs is already a superb mqueue filesystem, and quite
> > satisfactory for tmp as well.
>
> I do not debate the merits of ext2fs, I debate the merits
> of asynchronous mounts. The ext2fs is only available under
> Linux, whereas asynchronous mounts are available on most Unix or
> Unix-like OSes. It just so happens that this tends to be more of
> an issue for Linux, since it uses async mounts by default.

However, your experience with buggered filesystems losing data, and
behaving worse with asynch writes enabled, may just possibly not
carry over to ext2fs. It doesn't apply, in fact, based on my
experience and that of many other people.

> Please don't confuse the issue.

You are the one confusing the issue. You insist on carrying your
experience with other filesystems and OSes, and their fondness for
crashing and inclination to lose data when they do, over into
discussions of Linux with ext2fs and its asynch mounts.

> > If the data loss from async updates is in practice less common
> > than the data loss from hard drive failures, then you'd be
> > wrong ---
>
> That's a big if. In my experience, the software fails
> many orders of magnitude more often than the hardware, so you'd
> seriously lose this bet.

Get better software.

-Bennett

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