>>>>> "Cliff" == Cliff Sarginson <cliffraggedclown.net> writes:

Cliff> On Sun, Dec 02, 2001 at 01:11:29PM -0600, Amos Gouaux wrote:
>> >>>>> On 29 Nov 2001 21:10:26 +0100,
>> >>>>> Simon J Mudd <Simon> (sjm) writes:
>>
sjm> I've been piping my mailing lists into a local copy of INN. I then
sjm> use a news-reader to read the "news", and heavily filter based on
sjm> subject. INN does the nice thing of expiring the messages after a
sjm> while, and most/all news-readers all you to say: "I've read this
sjm> newsgroup"

he treats it as a newsgroup

>>
>> I do something similar with our Cyrus server. Periodically I use
>> Cyrus' ipurge utility to clear out really old posts. And to be even
>> more perverse, I use a news reader (Gnus) to read mail. ;-)

he treats it as a newsgroup too. I use gnus too. I just spent the
last couple weeks figuring out how to subscribe so I could have the
privilege of asking questions... however I haven't seen my questions
here oddly.

>>
Cliff> No please, not a newsgroup or a forum.
Cliff> They require a completely different way of working with information.
Cliff> They attract spam and trollers like wasps to a picnic.

well, for instance this message here of mine with its minimal content
and full rehash of quoted matter is probably more suitable for a
newsgroup. i see the postfix 'newsgrpup' on google... why exclusively
on google and not readonly on NNTP in general... might as well as they
are providing it...

odd how posting privileges add reading transport are coupled.

Cliff> They lack the immediacy required for such a dynamic product as Postfix
Cliff> (that last sentence sounds good, I think it means something!).

Cliff> I agree the volume on this list is huge, but most people seem quite
Cliff> good at keeping to the original subject in a thread and the delete-thread
Cliff> option is a mere keystroke away in my mutt...

Cliff> But I loathe using newsgroups, so maybe my opinions are too subjective.
Cliff> I know however that I would read less of the messages and be more
Cliff> censorious of what I read if I once a day ran fetchnews and am faced
Cliff> with 100's of messages all in one go.

and for us non-institutional users with rinky-dink mailboxes on modem
lines in 2.5 world countries, with POP resets every 2 or 3
messages... well, I think you are possibly excluding some of the less
fortunate users... what is wrong with GNU's moderated newsgroups if a
list of allowed posters is also maintained?

Cliff> And then there is the problem of expiry, the delay in getting usenet
Cliff> messages depending on the server you use.. etc. etc.

i just feel bad that one day some personal message of importance wont
get thru my rinky-dink POP mailboxes due to mailing list onslaught...

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