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From: Alan Hodgson (ahodgsonsimkin.ca)
Date: Wed Jan 30 2002 - 13:34:24 CST

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    On Wed, Jan 30, 2002 at 07:15:44PM +0000, Keith Matthews wrote:
    > Remember this is the UK, for most of the country even local calls are
    > not free. BT's minimum call charge is 5p, no matter how short the call
    > is. What you are suggesting is not economic for dial-up customers who
    > do not use POP3 (for the record Demon are one of the few ISPs that
    > allow SMTP connection from dial-up customers - historical, after all
    > they've been going since 1992).
    >
    > I get evening and weekend calls 'free' to demon, but I have to pay BT
    > GBP 15 per month to do that. Calls made during the working day (08:00
    > to 18:00) cost me 4p per minute and BT don't recognise public holidays
    > as weekends.

    I have no idea why you think authenticating your SMTP connection would
    cause you to be online for longer than you are now. I said allow
    authorized POP-3 users, not use POP before SMTP.

    There is no reason to allow every user on their network unrestricted access
    to their relays. Doing so has caused the problems they have been
    experiencing for at least the last 4 years with open relays. I merely
    expressed how I would go about fixing that problem.

    Given Demon's history in this regard, I certainly don't expect them to
    actually do anything to fix the problem. So, don't worry, you won't have
    to change how you've been doing things for the last 10 years, and the rest
    of us will continue to receive spam from Demon servers.

    -- 
    "It's not a war on drugs, it's a war on personal freedom. Keep that in mind
    at all times."
    

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