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From: p dont think (pdontthinkyahoo.com)
Date: Wed Apr 03 2002 - 00:43:11 CST

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    > > Outlook (and OE) only use LOGIN protocol, but I believe the TLS patch is
    > > for SMTP over SSL ... and not for SASL.
    >
    > Outlook speaks SMTP to submit it's mail, like any other MUA. Thus, the
    > SMTP AUTH authentication is SMTP over TLS.

    but as I understand it, you can generate your own certificate
    primarily to create SSH-like security for the transmission of
    passwords which can then be authenticated for smtpd by SASL,
    or am I misunderstanding how this all works together? At least,
    that is what I am after - is there a better way?

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