On Thu, 2 May 2002 20:43:23 -0400 (EDT)
luna <lunadipswitch.net> wrote:

> well, if your only need is for postfix to provide outgoing mail
> services, and it's gonna be on the same machine as mutt, you really
> don't need smtp auth at all..
Then why does SMTP AUTH exist at all?

I keep hearing this, but no instructions as to how to do it.

>
> when you are authenticating yourself to "the server"and sending mail,
> vei.net's mail server (mail.vei.net) is taking your message and
> sending it to the recipient's mail server.. however, you can remove
> one link from the chain (in a sense)- install postfix on your server,

I don't have a "server", just a home PC.

> set it up to only listen on the loopback interface,

What is a/the "loopback interface"?

>change your mutt
> config to use localhost as it's smtp server rather than mail.vei.net,
> and then your own computer(e.g. postfix) will take your message,
> deliver it directly to the recipient's mail server, without ever
> involving mail.vei.net (unless the recipient's mail server just
> happens to be mail.vei.net. (how's that for a run-on sentence?)
>
> all of this can be done without the need for smtp auth, and imho, if
> your needs are as basic as appears, setting up smtp auth would be way
> more trouble than it's worth.

Well, I'd really like to know how to do this.

>
> bim that in the above example, i'm asuming mutt is prompting you to
> authenticate when mail is sent.

No, it doesn't.

Sorry if I'm sounding a little edgy, but I keep geting conflicting
inputs and no step by step instruction for this ignorant, but trying to
learn newbie. I am reading the docs, but a lot of the terminology I
don't understand. Is it OK if I post really stupid questions to this
list?

Jerry

>
> -ben
>
> On Thu, 2 May 2002, Jerry Van Brimmer wrote:
>
> >Well, now you have me more confused. Okay, here's what I have and
> >what I am trying to do. I have a stand-alone PC, it's not a server
> >for anything. I use an external modem to dial in to my ISP,
> >www.vei.net. The mail server is mail.vei.net. Now, of course to
> >connect to the 'net I have to dial-up and "log in" using my ID and
> >password. Then I am"connected" to the internet. Then, to
> >read/download my email I have to"log in" to the mail server using
> >another ID/password connection. Fine so far. Now, if I want to SEND
> >an email nessage, ny email program, whatever it is, whatever you want
> >to call it, upon clicking send, it must AUTHENTICATE itself with the
> >server before it will allow my program to send the message. This is
> >SMTP AUTH. That's all I am wanting Postfix to do, just act like a
> >simple email client MTA. My goal in all this is to be able to use
> >Mutt as my MUA. I already have Fetchmail set up to fetch my mail.
> >Procmail saet up to filter mail and Mutt set up to read mail. I just
> >can't get Postfix, or anything else to SEND mail. I have been reading
> >all of the docs I can find on Postfix/SMTP AUTH, but most of them are
> >server oriented. Please, anybody jump in here and help!
> >
> >Cheers,
> >Jerry
> >
>
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