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From: Agustin Muñoz (agustincast-info.es)
Date: Mon Jul 08 2002 - 10:21:59 CDT

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    El lun, 08-07-2002 a las 17:11, Matthias Andree escribió:
    > "Roger B.A. Klorese" <rogerkqueernet.org> writes:
    >
    > > Matthias Andree wrote:
    > > > I have no experience with XFS or jfs. My experience is restricted to
    > > > ext2fs, ext3fs, reiserfs.
    > > >
    > > > If you value your mail, there is only one choice: ext3fs. It's the
    > > > only(*) file system that has ordered data writes, that prevent corrupt
    > > > file contents over a crash. It has journalling, and you can see if data
    > > > journalling makes it faster for you.
    > >
    > > Unfortunately, without an external journal, with no tuning, and on top
    > > of a hardware RAID-5, ext3 proved too slow for us to run on -- kjournald
    > > ran at 99% CPU.
    >
    > kjournald at 99% CPU? Hard to believe, never seen that, and all Linux
    > boxen that I operate have at least some ext3 file systems, but none has
    > RAID-5. Either there is a kernel bug or RAID-5 and ext3 don't work
    > together well. May I ask what hardware RAID you're using?
    >
    > The Postfix server with the longest uptime that I look after has been
    > running since 107 days 8.5 hours, and the most expensive kjournald
    > process has taken 46 minutes of CPU time (Pentium-II/266 -- Klamath
    > core), the next nicer 8.5 minutes, the next 5.5 minutes and the other
    > two are well below a minute. That's less than 0.04 % CPU. AIC7xxx-based
    > UWSCSI, Linux-2.4.19-pre1-ac2, only ext3 file systems.
    >
    > May I recommend to try the latest *.rc or *.aa kernel version and see if
    > the problem persists? If it does, may I suggest to report that to the
    > linux-kernel mailing list? Some people on that list may want know about
    > your problem and may be able to help you. Please send them exact
    > information on your hardware and the kernel version that you're running
    > so they won't have to ask too much. Patches applied, etc. If you can
    > provide a test case to trigger that 99% CPU condition in kjournald, the
    > bug should be fixed pretty soon.
    >

            A few weeks ago I was running in a trouble with a server with ext3,
    when any process have to do some intensive IO to hard disk (for example
    perform a mysqldump) and the load of machine start to increase more and
    more and more (more than 100!!!!) and finally the server get in an
    unknown status... :-S

            I was running RAID1 with two IDE (20GB and 40 GB, each disk) disks and
    kernel 2.4.18. Then I started to play with renice, reniced to -20 the
    kjournald process, and finally use hdparm to activate DMA and 32Bit IO
    access (hdparm -c1d1 /dev....) and the server started working without
    any problem .....

    Certainly strange

    Agustin

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