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From: Andy Hsu (ahsu_at_nobelglobe.com)
Date: Tue Oct 01 2002 - 18:45:28 CDT
Had to get my 2-cents in because my company was a recent victim of
SPEWS. A few months back, our /26 block was listed as part of a /24
block due to a spammer that used to reside on a /26 above us. Since the
only way to contact the SPEWS administrators was through their
newsgroup, I left a post asking to be delisted, and received the
newsgroup equivalent of a public crucifixion in return. The reasoning
behind their refusal to delist us was that as a customer of WorldCom, we
were as bad as the spammers. We've since found a way around the
problem, but I strongly recommend avoiding this list. I've rarely
encountered a more unreasonable group of people.
-Andy
-----Original Message-----
From: Duncan Hill [mailto:dhill
pct.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 4:03 PM
To: Chuck Mize
Cc: postfix-users
postfix.org
Subject: Re: Spam restrictions
On Tue, 1 Oct 2002, Chuck Mize wrote:
> On Tuesday 01 October 2002 13:24, Clifton Royston wrote:
> >
> > Don't use spews! They're hopeless - they put huge IP blocks in
there
> > and never remove them, even after they are reallocated to someone
> > totally different.
>
> This isn't true at all. SPEWS will block entire ranges of providers
who are
> spam friendly but all the evidence I've seen indicates that if the
provider
> stops the spamming they get delisted from SPEWS very quickly.
Excluding the recent issue with the LLDC listing (1280), my observations
match what you have said.
The thing to bear in mind is that they publish an opinion about ISPs
basically. So if ISP A had spammer B on their network for 6 months and
did
nothing, they can expect to get a large swathe of their network listed
in
the opinion list.
I am not SPEWS :)
--Sapere aude My mind not only wanders, it sometimes leaves completely. Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
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