On Tue, Oct 01, 2002 at 03:09:23PM -0700, Chuck Mize wrote:
>
> On Tuesday 01 October 2002 13:24, Clifton Royston wrote:
> >
> > Don't use spews! They're hopeless - they put huge IP blocks in there
> > and never remove them, even after they are reallocated to someone
> > totally different.
>
> This isn't true at all. SPEWS will block entire ranges of providers who are
> spam friendly but all the evidence I've seen indicates that if the provider
> stops the spamming they get delisted from SPEWS very quickly.

  Not true according to what I've read from Genuity admins in the last
month, for instance. Spews apparently still has listed large chunks of
Genuity address space (remember we're talking swathes of a Class A
here!) due to a spammer who was spamming out of servers colo'd at
Genuity, who they shut down. I have experience of Genuity being
extremely responsive to spam complaints, from when we had address space
as well as connectivity with them - as the descendant of BBN, one of
the oldest networks on the Internet, they have in my opinion a sound
AUP and a good abuse department.

  Add the comment just seen about WorldCom (=UUNet) and consider that
if you have address space delegated from two of the largest Tier 1
backbone providers, you have a perfectly good chance of being randomly
listed in Spews because of something one of their other customers did
before being terminated.

  -- Clifton

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    Clifton Royston  --  LavaNet Systems Architect --  cliftonrlava.net
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   What does it take to make us sing?
 While we're waiting for the next one to arrive..." - Sisters of Mercy
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