From: Alex van den Bogaerdt (alexergens.op.het.net)
Date: Thu Jan 15 2004 - 16:31:08 CST

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On Thu, Jan 15, 2004 at 12:52:15PM -0500, Wietse Venema wrote:

> > > > > And therefore the solution to spam is to f..k up the infrastructure
> > > > > with measures that have no long term impact on spam.
> > > >
> > > > Proof, please.
> > >
> > > The burden of proof is on the "solution" provider.
> >
> > Proof is available on http://spf.pobox.com/site-index.html so I'm not
> > going to repeat that.
>
> That is no proof.
>
> SPF like mechanisms do not eliminate spam.

I don't care if it does, or does not, eliminate spam. It does, as
far as my current believe is, work against impersonation of domains.

I do not claim that the solution is perfect, and I do not claim it
is the one and only solution.

You on the other hand are just saying that it does not work. When asked
*why* you think it does not work, you just keep repeating that it does
not stop spam.

I will ask you again:

Why is SPF f..cking up the infrastructure in such a way that even
you can't think logically? You think and speak logical ones and zeros
yet on this topic you cannot reason. This is absurd.

In fact, _are_ you the real Wietse or am I talking to someone
impersonating you?

Alex
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