From: Ron Wheeler (rwheelerartifact-software.com)
Date: Sat Apr 03 2004 - 10:32:45 CST

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Of all the great advice in this forum, this was the best for brightening up
a cloudy Spring day in Montreal. It is good to know that some very clever
people have way too much time on their hands. I dread to think what they
could come up with if they turned to the dark side:-)

It was a nice break from trying to figure out in which modern European
language
the string "/qmgr" means cached and the string "/delivery_agent_name" means
not cached.
I am old enough to have taken Latin in High School and I speak English and
French regularly and I took "Scientific German" at University (when
knowledge of German was required for post-graduate Science degrees) but I'll
be damned if I can remember this set of definitions ever coming up.

Keep up the good work. I was going to send this in HTML just to keep up with
the spirit of the day. I thought that those who could cope with "/qmgr"
meaning "cached" would enjoy the challenge of sorting through the tags but
for the rest of us plain text is better.

Seriously, thanks for the great help provided in this site. It is good to
know that when I need help with postfix, the best possible advice and help
is only an e-mail away.

Ron

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-postfix-userspostfix.org
[mailto:owner-postfix-userspostfix.org]On Behalf Of Greg A. Woods
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 4:29 PM
To: Thomas A. Luther
Cc: Postfix User's Mailing List
Subject: RE: Message-id problem

[ On Thursday, April 1, 2004 at 20:32:05 (-0500), Thomas A. Luther wrote: ]
> Subject: RE: Message-id problem
>

You know the whole idea of trying to masquerade your "service" provider
is really rather pointless. You simply cannot possibly ever hide the
fact that you're sharing services and with whom, no matter how hard you
try, and even if you succeeded in munging all the right headers, so why
bother pretending to try?

If you want a bunch of companies to share IT and network services then
presumably you have some form of legal agreement amongst them and you
could very simply and very easily acquire a shared domain name under
which to operate those services -- i.e. set up a "virtual" ISP and just
"pretend" you all use it. That way everyone involved, including third
parties, gets exactly what they expect and everything you do is clear
and above board.

> "This email may contain material that is confidential, and proprietary
> to Practical Network Security Solutions, Inc., for the sole use of the
> intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others or
> forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are
> not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all
> copies."

[[ sorry to repeat this to the list, but anyone who's not read it might
get a laugh... It's especially funny when addressed to someone working
for an organisation claiming to do "network security" :-) ]]

This e-mail puts you on notice that I will not be bound by your
confidentiality notice and will feel free to review, disclose,
distribute, archive, laugh at, be amused by, poke fun publicly at,
and/or publish anything I get in e-mail, either directly or indirectly,
and whether intended for me or not, without any further notice. If you
don't feel comfortable with that, I suggest that you not send any
e-mail, especially not to me or any mailing list I might subscribe to;
or at least that you use strong digital encryption to ensure that your
e-mail can't be read by anyone other than its intended recipient. There
are many ways to do this, including using such things as PGP, Lotus
Notes, S/Mime, and many other similar systems.

I apologize to you if it was not your decision to add this notice to
your e-mail. However, given the number of places that have legalized
shrink wrap licenses and the similarity of this license to same, I feel
like it is incumbent on me to put you on notice immediately regarding my
rejection of your notice. Please forward it to whoever in your legal
department or management chain you deem as appropriate.

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text is hereby licensed to the public, subject to the following conditions:
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agreeing to be bound by these conditions. Reading, perusing, scanning or
otherwise viewing or percieving the preceeding text whether by visual,
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author of the preceeding work. (c) Limitation of No Offense: No person
reading or otherwise consuming in any way such as (but not limited to) those
methods described in part (a) is permitted to be offended, annoyed, irked,
distressed, disturbed, bothered, or harried by the preceeding text. If the
preceding text would do so, the license for it's use is pre-emptorily
withdrawn and voided prior to it's reading. (d) Waiver of Recourse: the
Licensee or Potential Licensee agrees prior to acceptance of this agreement
to hold harmless and indemnify the author against any claim, civil or legal,
which might arise from the perusal of the preceeding material. (e)
Severability: The invalidation of any part of this license agreement shall
in no way void the whole or affect the application of any other part of this
agreement. (f) Sense of Humor: Any potential reader without a sense of
humor is referred to parts (c) and (d) of this agreement and requested to
note that the lack thereof is disqualified as mitigation of any of these
terms. ]

If you and/or your PHB still think your mailer should automatically
attach a stupid disclaimer like this one to all your outgoing e-mail
then please also read this:

        <URL:http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/stupid-disclaimers/>

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                                                Greg A. Woods

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