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Re: OT: SORBS insanity

From: Jussi Silvennoinen (jussi_postfixsilvennoinen.net)
Date: Tue Nov 02 2004 - 14:35:32 CST


On Tue, 2 Nov 2004, Thomas Zehetbauer wrote:

> Aren't there enough webmail providers yet? Most are used by spammers and
> identity fakers anyway.

How would that be defined? And what is the basis for this fantastic
conclusion? This service runs with a 7-digit userbase.

> Have you really been careless enough to use a valuable domain for your
> public webmail service?

Valuable domain? A domain is worth $5 and the time to write one email.
What drugs are you on?

> Did you forget to set up a use policy allowing you to reimburse the
> SORBS penalty from that abuser?

Again, it's a free webmail. Of course it's only a small part of our
service portfolio.

> If so you well deserve to pay these 50$ yourself.

Typical propellerhead approach.

> Don't get me wrong, I am not an advocate of SORBS, they even had my IP
> incorrectly blacklisted as dynamic which caused me a lot of problems and
> took a long time to get solved. But as long as not all nations sue their
> spammers I am happy that private organisations like SORBS take on this
> task.
>
> I agree that it is not fair to donate the money to a charity chosen by
> Matthew Sullivan but I guess this is his "payment" for running SORBS.
> For my part I would rather have him pay some staff and let the payees
> vote for a charity they want to support.

The problem is that if a person or an animal, my dog for example, sends an
email to whateverfoobarsorbs.net, WHAM, the IP is listed.

Some fools have put credibility behind this foolishness, thus for example
the capital area national health system preferredMX-box uses this list. I
guess some vital pieces of clue were stuck in the pipe heading their
way...

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  Jussi