From: /dev/rob0 (rob0gmx.co.uk)
Date: Wed Aug 16 2006 - 10:59:01 CDT

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On Wednesday 16 August 2006 10:25, Charles Gregory wrote:
> Did I mention that I am underwhelmed by the lack of intelligence
> being demonstrated? From everything I've heard, most spambots don't
> retry to send mail. So a 450 or 550 will have the same result with
> spam. I think the original poster was concerned that if a legitimate

XBL spam vs. SBL spam (as I mentioned in another thread), yes. But SBL
spammers usually have perfect FCrDNS anyway.

> sender had a bad DNS they would wait five days to find out. The
> answer is, of course, that a decently configured MTA sends a warning
> after 5 hours or so. And I don't think that anyone with a badly

That's not the Postfix default, BTW, you have to set
"delay_warning_time".

> as our customers do. A business that fails to be responsive to the
> needs of its customers is not going to be in business for long.

Microsoft and the US Government both appear to be going strong. ;)

Seriously, and as this is off-topic please don't extend this thread on
this account, I wonder if we've got a new paradigm. Consider the music
and film industries, who treat their paying customers as criminals,
even like enemies! Retailers and retail packaging: I have kids, and I
mutter things I don't want them to hear every time I have to struggle
with the packaging of a new toy. :) Success in the 21st century: get
big and treat customers poorly.

My apologies to the list for the off-topic diversion, but note, I
stayed out of the flame war, and I managed a small bit of topical
discussion herein. ;) :)
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