From: Lee Quince (Lee.Quinceiqunity.com)
Date: Wed May 14 2008 - 02:45:48 CDT

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It cannot be done with our users, they are ad hoc from all over the
world... Would that not be spam (mass mailing the world) :-)

We sell access from free all the way to 30 days.

Regards

Lee

Peter Koinange wrote:
> Thats right, then the only way is to force users to change
> - Mass Mail all users telling them of the change to authenticated SMTP ( making sure to point out advantages ) providing them with a period when the chnage will occur eg 2 months. Then implementing the change and only supporting authenticated SMTP
>
>
> K
> ----- "Lee Quince" <Lee.Quinceiqunity.com> wrote:
>
>
>> Another good point...
>>
>> But back to the stupid user problem... This class dont have the time
>> or will to understand.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Lee
>>
>> Peter Koinange wrote:
>>
>> I guess the main problem is with ISP then they should have encourage
>> their users to switch to authenticated SMTP, if one is to check
>> providers who give free email eg google etc, they all use
>> authenticated SMTP
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> K
>>
>> ----- "Lee Quince" <Lee.Quinceiqunity.com> wrote:
>>
>> Jorey,
>>
>> Still missing the point...
>>
>> Most ISP's still only allow you to relay when connected to one of
>> there
>> own connection's.
>>
>> 95% of users still use unauthenticated SMTP.
>>
>> 5% of users use authenticated SMTP.
>>
>> Hence lets reduce the bigger problem. "What the Customer wants"
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Lee
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jorey Bump [ mailto:listjoreybump.com ]
>> Sent: 13 May 2008 16:51
>> To: Lee Quince
>> Cc: postfix users list
>> Subject: Re: Allow all types of Relay for a Hotspot Provider..
>>
>> Lee Quince wrote, at 05/13/2008 11:48 AM:
>>
>> O'well you all seem to miss the business side of it..
>>
>> Sometimes its not about what we want but what our customers ask for.!
>>
>> i.e in this case a hotel.
>>
>> I agree not best practice, but when you have a screaming executive at
>>
>> 3am on the support phone who cannot understand where the power button
>> is
>>
>> "i normally shut the lid" then you may understand..
>>
>> We will have 10,000 smtp redirect's of legitimate email everyday..
>> then
>>
>> there will be the 4 users that have paid 500.00 for a room and they
>> cannot send email on the free wifi service. What is the smaller pain?
>>
>> As for the comment about who's protects the user? Well it would have
>> to
>>
>> be the box the laptop came in. Really is that our problem, we don't
>> host
>>
>> there email just provide a mechanism to send. The least we need the
>> user
>>
>> to change the better. Then don't block or attempt to proxy port 25.
>> They don't need you to
>> supply an MTA in order to send email. They already have an email
>> provider, as you point out. Why interfere at all, if you don't want
>> the
>> headache?
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> Lee Quince
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>> iQunity Ltd
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