From: mouss (moussnetoyen.net)
Date: Wed Oct 01 2008 - 13:45:55 CDT

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Chad Whitacre wrote:
> Wietse,
>
> > A mis-understanding as in posting a patch that "corrects"
> > Postfix behavior without adequate justification.
> >
> > According to RFC 5312 section 2.3.5, SMTP uses the dot as
> > SEPARATOR not TERMINATOR in domain names.
>
> o I raised a legitimate issue. SMTP's use of "FQDN" is not
> widely known. Afaict, it was not even formally defined until
> RFC 5321 was published today--during our conversation.
>

Actually 5321 didn't change the definition of helo (and even 2821 didn't
really change it).

> o I provided a patch.

that's nice and constructive.

>
> o I apologized quickly for calling this behavior a bug.

sure, but it can't be removed from the history file ;-p

>
> o I never used the word "corrects" or otherwise implied that
> Postfix has it wrong.
>
> o I accepted your and Noel's clarifications about the use of
> "FQDN" in SMTP.
>
> o I followed your advice in searching the IETF-SMTP list for
> more info.

do you mix mail from me and mail from Wietse?

>
> o I updated the Wikipedia article on FQDN's accordingly.
>
> o Here was my misunderstanding: I thought you posted the
> message about RFCs 5321 and 5322, and were asking me to
> cite these in the Wikipedia article. My fault, sorry.
>
> o I asked for help in finding the specific reference.
>
> o I found the reference myself.
>
> o I updated Wikipedia again.
>
>
> I'm human, I make mistakes, and I hope I apologize for them. But I'm not
> an idiot and I'm not malicious. I'm on your side. Don't you think you
> could lighten up a little?

don't be upset by the "style". the trailing dot thing has already been
debated here a long time ago. so bringing it again does annoy those who
have seen the old thread. While you're not required to know all the
posts and discussions that happened here, don't be surprised if the
responses you get aren't as "smooth" as you would like. but there's no
hate or animosity.

Anyway, as Noel said, "thanks for your willingness to help...".

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