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From: Fernando Martins (fernando.martinsesoterica.pt)
Date: Thu Jan 03 2002 - 04:34:33 CST

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    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Lance Spitzner [mailto:lancehoneynet.org]
    (...)
    > If you are confused about what the legal issues are,
    > do not be frustrated. No one is exactly sure, as there
    > is little, if any legal precedence concerning honeypot
    > technologies. The Honeynet Project has a team working with
    > the Department of Justice to identify issues at the Federal level.
    (...)

    Anybody else outside US doing the same? Like in Europe ...

    (...)
    > Our initial findings are that entrapment is not a large
    > concern. Entrapment applies only to law enforcment, or its
    > agents. That most likely eliminates most people on this
    > list. Even for law enforcement, entrapment may not be an
    > issue, as most honeypot technology do not induce an attacker
    > to do something they would normally not do.
    (...)

    As far as I know, at least here in Portugal, I suppose entrapment at a
    honeypot/net level is not illegal. Anybody else in other european
    countries can say the same?

    (...)
    > What is most likely a legal concern is privacy. Honeypot
    > technologies, especially Honeynets, can capture extensive
    > amounts of information, including IRC chats, emails, and
    > keystrokes. Is that information legal? It may not be, we do
    > not know at this time. There is a tremendous amount of
    > variables involved, such as how you gathered the information,
    > what county you are in, what country the attacker is in, what
    > you intend to do with the information, etc. To complicate
    > the matter even more, local or state laws can supersede
    > Federal laws. For more information on the Project's current
    > findings, check out the Legal section in
    (...)

    Yeah, privacy can be a legal issue, for example here if that info is an
    organized database with personal data. Any UE country will have the same
    law (or should have), because this cames from a law of the UE Parlement
    and apply to all UE.

    I don't know if this can be an issue for the honeynet.org, but it would
    be nice a document/page at the site with a list of countries/TLD with
    the correspondent legal issue (entrapment; databases with personal info;
    <insert legal issue here>; ...)checked or not, and if possible with a
    link to a page where the related national law can be available to read.

    For Portugal, these are major links (all in portuguese):
    http://www.pj.pt/htm/noticias/criminalidade_informatica.htm
    (categorization of cyber/IT crimes)
    http://www.pj.pt/htm/legislacao/dr_informatica/Lei109_91.htm (law for
    the IT crimes)
    http://www.pj.pt/htm/legislacao/dr_informatica/Lei67_98.htm (law for the
    protection of personal data)

    BTW, in a honeynet where IRC chats are included, do/can honeynets
    capture DCC chats?

    F.M.

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