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From: Yune Sung (yuneNETIAN.COM)
Date: Wed Apr 04 2001 - 02:11:22 CDT

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    I guess Axent's NetPowler has a kind of Stateful
    Inspection Engine, called Stateful Dynamic
    SignatureInspection(SDSI). I think It has each
    application state information, and detects costomized
    attack signature.
    Pls, check it out....

    Yune Sung

    KISA, Seoul Korea
    Email: yunenetian.com
    > To All,
    >
    >
    > It is my understanding that no current IDS
    (including ISS's RealSecure) does
    > stateful inspection of the connections on the
    network segment being
    > monitored. Therefore, it is not necessary to
    establish a legitimate TCP
    > connection in order for the IDS to register an
    attempted attack. Since no
    > TCP connection is necessary, could someone with
    malicious intent spoof their
    > source IP address to be any address on the
    Internet, presuming that the site
    > that they are launching from has not implemented
    egress filtering as
    > described in RFC 2267. The target of the attack (or
    perhaps an intervening
    > firewall or packet filter) will disregard these fake
    attack packets because
    > they are not part of a legitimate, established TCP
    connection. With that
    > said the IDS will Log all the Fake Attack
    > The IDS will continue to run as normal, registering
    a large number of
    > attacks. If the attacker simultaneously runs a real
    attack during this
    > time, it will be difficult to tell from the IDS system
    alone which attack is
    > real and therefore where the real attack originated.
    >
    > Solution?
    > Could you put firewall in front of the IDS that only
    configured for Stateful
    > Inspection (a simple LINUX box firewall)? (will this
    cause the IDS to miss
    > other attempted attacks as well).
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > Vern Waltman
    > JTF-CND Sr. Technical Analysts
    > Litton TASC
    > E-mail: waltmanvjtfcnd.ia.mil
    > (703) 607-4050 ext. 4481
    > FAX: (703) 607- 4009
    >
    >
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