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From: Scott Cothrell (scothrelCISCO.COM)
Date: Sun Apr 08 2001 - 12:56:46 CDT

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    The latest (and last, excepting bug fixes) of the 2.2.1 code base is 2.2.1.8
    release made in the last couple of weeks. 2.5.x is the current code train
    for both the NetRanger and Cat 6K IDS blade (IDSM in Cisco Secure parlance).
    If you don't have a CCO (Cisco Connection Online) login (read maintainence
    contract I believe), all you will see is the 2.2.1 documentation. Indeed, I
    can see how you could think there were no updates if thats all you can see.
    If you have a login, go to
    http://www.cisco.com/kobayashi/sw-center/ciscosecure/ids.shtml. You will
    see all the 2.2.1.x and 2.5.x Sensor updates and 2.2.2 Director update. If
    you're going to update, get to the 2.5 software release if possible.
    The release number scheme changed at 2.5..here's the way it works
    Major.minor.Service Pack.Signature level. 2.5.1.S0 is the current NetRanger
    appliance software rev. updating in the next couple of weeks to (I believe)
    S3 to sync the appliance and the blade signature suites.

    Signature updates, a new software train and a new hardware platform (and
    software) from scratch...We've been anything but resting on laurels. You
    can go ahead and keep calling it Netranger, Talisker...some of us prefer
    that name anyway ;^)

    Scott Cothrel
    Senior Enginneer
    Cisco Systems
    Austin, Texas USA

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Focus on Intrusion Detection Systems
    [mailto:FOCUS-IDSSECURITYFOCUS.COM]On Behalf Of Talisker
    Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2001 12:33 PM
    To: FOCUS-IDSSECURITYFOCUS.COM
    Subject: Re: Documentation for NetRanger Updates

    > I have eight NetRanger boxes that have been on our network for about
    > two years with NO updates or maintaince done (they are Version 2.2 i
    > think).

    Chad
    Netranger has been rebadged as Cisco Secure IDS, IMHO a very poor marketing
    move.
    The support page is at
    http://www.cisco.com/pcgi-bin/Support/PSP/psp_view.pl?p=Software:Cisco_Secur
    e_IDS

    It's not reknowned for it's updates, according to their site the latest
    version is 2.2.1, when looking for upgrades, you get the message there are
    no upgrades at this time. Netranger was a well respected product, however,
    perhaps like ISS between '99 and Q1 in 2001, they have become a little
    complacent, sitting back on their laurels, expecting to win deals on their
    name and market share.

    Hopefully someone will set me right pointing out that Cisco are still
    developing thier IDS product with regular updates.

    I'll give ISS their due, they do seem to be working hard at updating their
    products moving away from their McIDS image.

    If you are still having problems I'd make the resellers earn their
    commission and support the products they sold you. I looked at NetRanger
    sorry, Cisco Secure IDS last year but at £18,000 per appliance I didn't go
    beyond looking.

    Good Luck in your quest
    Andy
    http://www.networkintrusion.co.uk
    Talisker's Network Security Tools List

    Security Tools Notification
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/security-tools/join
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Chad Gough" <chad131YAHOO.COM>
    To: <FOCUS-IDSSECURITYFOCUS.COM>
    Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 7:59 PM
    Subject: Documentation for NetRanger Updates

    > I have eight NetRanger boxes that have been on our network for about
    > two years with NO updates or maintaince done (they are Version 2.2 i
    > think).
    >
    > Does anyone have an documentation that can point me to the location
    > of updated signatures/software and any help installing/configuring
    > them. I can't find any good documentation on Cisco's site.
    >
    > Thanks in advance,
    > Chad
    >
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