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From: vernee.lbl.gov
Date: Fri Nov 30 2001 - 02:26:59 CST

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    > Are overlapping packets witnessed in the wild ?

    Yes. See section 7.3, "Crud seen on a DMZ", of:

            http://www.aciri.org/vern/papers/bro-CN99.html

    > Is it quite unusual ?

    I'd say on average, at LBL we see a few each day, though that's out of a
    large traffic stream.

    > Are there somewhat special protocols making use of overlapping
    > data at ip or tcp level ?

    There shouldn't be any that "make use" of it to try to achieve some effect.
    A worry, though, is whether legitimate apps might inadvertantly generate
    these, and then you'll terminate their connections unnecessarily. From
    my experience, yes, legitimate apps do these sorts of things sometimes,
    but they're quite rare.

    > <2> mitigate IDS desynchronization and more generally issues with content
    > filters

    In this context, you might want to check out

            http://www.aciri.org/vern/papers/norm-usenix-sec-01-html/index.html

    - Vern