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From: Ken Pohniman (kenpohnimanyahoo.com)
Date: Fri Jan 25 2002 - 08:04:17 CST

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    Seems that at 60Mbps throughput, the NIDS packet drop rate is about 50%. My
    questions is - at what drop rate can an IDS afford to experience before
    becoming totally 'useless'? Can the IDS still detect a particular attack if
    it drops just 1 of the packet? This is my biggest question actually. Thanks!

    -Ken

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Matt.Carpenteralticor.com [mailto:Matt.Carpenteralticor.com]
    Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 9:46 PM
    To: cgroutchrisgrout.com
    Cc: 'Chad Gough'; focus-idslists.securityfocus.com;
    kenpohnimanyahoo.com
    Subject: RE: Generating Traffic to Stress Test IDS

    >I'm sure that this is something that needs to be implemented by the
    >vendor. For Snort, if you daemonized it, do a 'kill -USR1 pid' and it
    >will dump stats to syslog. If not damonized, it will dump stats to the
    >console. As for NFR, I know it does also send alerts anytime it begins to

    >drop packets.
    >
    >Also keep in mind, it also REALLY depends on how many filters/signatures
    >you are running. Vendor "A" may state one thing, but forget to mention
    >that its barely running any filters at all.
    >
    >At 07:53 AM 1/25/2002 +0800, Ken Pohniman wrote:
    >> From what I understand, a NIDS can typically handle up to 40Mbps of
    traffic
    >>at any one time before starting to drop packets aggresively. An IDS
    >>Balancer, like that from TopLayer Networks, will be required, especially
    if
    >>you're talking about a GE network.
    >>
    >>Btw, regardless of what tool you use, does anyone knows how to check what
    is
    >>the packet drop rate on the IDS?
    >>
    >>Thanks!

    Agreed. Most NT-based NIDS canNOT handle 40MB. The OS can't hardly handle
    it. The "up-to" part is key.


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