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From: Randy Taylor (gnu_at_charm.net)
Date: Tue Jan 07 2003 - 15:49:53 CST

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    *chuckle* I completely missed the "Outside the Government.."
    part of Andy's question. My bad. More inline below.

    At 04:04 PM 1/7/2003 -0500, Frederick M Avolio wrote:
    >Sorry, Randy. To be sure. I was responding directly in context.
    >
    >Andy asked
    >>Outside Government and Military circles where I can see Common Criteria
    >>Certification being extremely useful, how valuable is it, ie within the
    >>financial sector etc ?
    >
    >I don't think it is valuable at all. I don't see how it possibly could be for
    >government, either. But, to the poor vendor who now has to comply with
    >it... yes,
    >it is essential.
    >
    >Perhaps it stimulates the economy. :-)

    I'm a member of a private list that often uses the phrase "...or something"
    whenever hard-coded dogma (or catma) flies in the face of what most would
    perceive as logical, rational, or reasonable. So, to mangle your quote above:

    "Perhaps it stimulates the economy...or something." }->

    All seriousness aside, there is value in Common Criteria
    if it's in nothing more than establishing a baseline evaluation
    standard whose results can be used to help folks make decisions
    about products in a given category. Hrm. If you run that statement
    through Asimov's Language Clarifier, does anything come out the
    other side?

    I have friends that work in CC testing and eval labs, and they are
    all really smart people. Ok, they're a bit bent, but really really smart.
    A couple of years ago, I was asked to work with them on the Win2k
    CC project. I joined Enterasys instead. At the time, it seemed like
    the least painful option. Hindsight is always 20-20, isn't it?

    Guess what I got tapped to do just before I left Enterasys? Jump-start the
    CC process for Dragon. The Universe is a very strange place. It folds back
    on itself at the most inconvenient times. Most of what I had to say about
    that before I left usually started with, "Oh God", or, "Oh crap".

    I just ran all of the CC documentation through Mr. Asimov's device. I was
    curious to see what the result would be. Here it is:

    "There is no escape from Common Criteria. Resistance is futile. You will
    be assimilated. Now shut up and get your paperwork together. And have
    a nice day...or something."

    See?

    >Fred

    Randy

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