From: Tom Arseneault (TArseneaultcounterpane.com)
Date: Wed Aug 06 2003 - 12:56:31 CDT

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My $.02 worth...

Any particular Nimda attack if your patched does'nt mean anything, however
if the volumn of attacks rise sharply in a short time period it's time to
research as to why is going up: are you the only one seeing it? Is it a
general rise in volumn for the Internet as a whole? Is part of a signature
of some new vulnerability? That is why you care even if your patched.

Thomas J. Arseneault
Security Engineer
Counterpane Internet Security
tarseneaultcounterpane.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Schmehl [mailto:paulsutdallas.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 3:39 AM
To: focus-idssecurityfocus.com
Subject: Re: IDS is dead, etc

--On Tuesday, August 05, 2003 13:11:37 -0400 "David W. Goodrum"
<dgoodrumnfr.com> wrote:
>
> One, provide the customer with more information (i.e. I see nimda
> alerts, but it also says that the dest OS is RedHat, therefore the end
> user can ignore it).

This brings up what I guess is a philosophical question. Why would you
want to know about Nimda attacks against your servers? If you're properly
secured, they won't have any effect. And if you're not, you'll know about
them soon enough.

I've altered all these types of rules to alert me when a host *inside* our
network is infected. Now *that* I want to know about. To me, Nimda/Code
Red/Slammer attacks from the outside are just part of the background noise
of the Internet.

Am I wrong to think this way?

Paul Schmehl (paulsutdallas.edu)
Adjunct Information Security Officer
The University of Texas at Dallas
AVIEN Founding Member
http://www.utdallas.edu

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