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From: Fab Siciliano (fsicilianoEARTHLINK.NET)
Date: Sun Feb 04 2001 - 17:51:01 CST

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    Does that utility 'LookupSid.exe' come with NT? Or is it a third party Util.
    and where can I find it? Thank You,
                                                    -Fab

    #-----Original Message-----
    #From: Focus on Microsoft Mailing List
    #[mailto:FOCUS-MSSECURITYFOCUS.COM]On Behalf Of Free, Bob
    #Sent: Friday, February 02, 2001 2:01 PM
    #To: FOCUS-MSSECURITYFOCUS.COM
    #Subject: Re: NONE Group
    #
    #
    #David LeBlanc answered this question recently on another list:
    #
    #<Quote>
    #
    #It's really just domain users:
    #
    #[d:\]LookupSid.exe none
    #User none is of type Group
    #Revision = 1, SubAuth count = 5
    #Identifier Authority = {0,0,0,0,0,5}
    #Subauth 0 = 15
    #Subauth 1 = 48c626fe
    #Subauth 2 = 36d67c9a
    #Subauth 3 = 47af2515
    #Subauth 4 = 201
    #
    #[d:\]LookupSid.exe "domain users"
    #User domain users is of type Group
    #Revision = 1, SubAuth count = 5
    #Identifier Authority = {0,0,0,0,0,5}
    #Subauth 0 = 15
    #Subauth 1 = 2e49644d
    #Subauth 2 = 1a028a35
    #Subauth 3 = 74b49ff8
    #Subauth 4 = 201
    #
    #I'm not sure why "none" resolves the same as domain users, but that's what
    #it amounts to.
    #
    #<end quote>
    #-----Original Message-----
    #From: Kit Skinner [mailto:kskinnerSANDSTREAM.COM]
    #Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 11:00 AM
    #To: FOCUS-MSSECURITYFOCUS.COM
    #Subject: [FOCUS-MS] NONE Group
    #
    #
    #I was recently doing an audit on a new application server set to go into
    #production and found a share with a group called "None" in the permissions
    #listing with Read access. However, I haven't been able to find any
    #documentation on it.
    #
    #I did some research on all my workstations and found this to be a built-in
    #group in all member NT machines (Workstations and Non-DC Servers). It has
    #the same RID as Domain Users in a Domain (513), but exists in the local
    #machine. What is also unusual, is this is displayed in the permissions
    #window with a Global Group Icon but listed on the Local Machine (ie:
    #<ComputerName>\None). I can't use net localgroup to see who the members
    #are, because its not a local group and can't find it. I can't use
    #net group
    #because it will only let me run that against a Domain Controller.
    #
    #This is not a group listed in the user manager or listed in the dialog box
    #to add permissions, but can be added to permissions by typing it in
    #manually. Also, you cannot create a group called None via User Manager
    #because it says a group already exists with that name.
    #
    #One developer I spoke with said he had heard it was left in NT as a through
    #back to UGLP support on a stand-alone system, but didn't really give an
    #example of what it could be used for. I removed the group from the
    #permissions and everything seemed to work alright.
    #
    #I just have a couple of questions if anyone could help, I'd appreciate it:
    # 1. what is the use/purpose of this group?
    # 2. who belongs to this group?
    # 3. is there any risk to having it there?
    # 4. can it be removed from the workstation?
    #
    #Thanks in advanced for your help,
    #-Kit Skinner
    #