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From: Ryan Permeh (ryanEEYE.COM)
Date: Tue Apr 10 2001 - 20:18:08 CDT

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    snort does not do anything like he was asking. snort is a very good basic
    ids. he is looking at stopping packets, not just logging strange packets(or
    attacks).(same goes with the mention of ethereal before).

    windows 2000 offers some sembelance of what you are looking for. look into
    the IP security policy for your machine. The rulesets allowed can be pretty
    much as complex as you need in a simple packet filtering situation.

    nt4 offers a very very very limited version of this.

    packet filtering has the distinct advantage of being able to stop a packet
    from actually ever getting to the natural IP stack. a good packet filter
    will just drop packets. a closed port will elicit a RST(or other
    appropriate behavior). The difference is this: 1. a packet filter drops
    packets and doesn't respond, a closed port accepts packets and then
    responds. A decent packet filter also allows the ability to log hits to
    specific filtered ports, and if the filter doesn't suck, even stop strange
    packets(with options|flags|certain bits set), even on an open port,
    hopefully protecting not just closed ports, but open ports too.

    With proper firewall rules (and a sane network layout), a secured dmz
    shouldn't really need packet filters, but layers are always a good idea,
    since you may leave a rule open on one or the other for testing and forget
    to set it again.

    good luck with your specific situation, i hope the builtin filters work for
    you.
    Signed,
    Ryan Permeh
    eEye Digital Security Team
    http://www.eEye.com/Retina -Network Security Scanner
    http://www.eEye.com/Iris -Network Traffic Analyzer

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "H C" <keydet89YAHOO.COM>
    To: <FOCUS-MSSECURITYFOCUS.COM>
    Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 1:11 PM
    Subject: Re: 2K/NT packet filter recommendations?

    > You might want to look at snort for this. snort runs
    > very well on NT, thanks to Mike Davis.
    >
    > However, what I don't see is why you would want packet
    > filtering. Why not simply disable whichever service
    > is listening on that ports you want to close? Or are
    > you looking for a method of auditing and logging?
    >
    > I seem to remember (don't quote me, I'm not at my home
    > computer) that you can designate which interface snort
    > is supposed to bind to...which gives you your
    > multiple-NIC functionality.
    >
    >
    >
    > --- John Girvin <john.girvinOSARIUS.COM> wrote:
    > > Hi,
    > >
    > > I'd like to add packet filters to my NT/2K server
    > > boxes as a second
    > > line of defence behind the main firewall.
    > >
    > > Some of the boxes have more than one NIC and I'd
    > > like/need to be able
    > > to configure different filter rules for each
    > > separately. Packet logging
    > > would be a bonus too.
    > >
    > > This needs to be done on a zero/tight budget so Ive
    > > been looking around
    > > the "personal firewall" class of product, but
    > > nothing Ive come across so
    > > far can do the multiple-NIC trick.
    > >
    > > So I'm looking for suggestions ... can anyone
    > > recommend a free/cheap
    > > packet filter that supports multiple NICs ?
    > >
    > > Thanks,
    > > /John
    >
    >
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