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From: Anthony Ogden (tonyserverers.org)
Date: Thu Oct 04 2001 - 14:21:22 CDT

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    I agree. If people can't find tick boxes they are not going to be able to
    navigate the required files to turn things on/off.

    These are the people that need some serious education. These are the people
    that are behind helping the Microsoft platform fail. More of them moving to
    Linux will weaken it, so they are best off kept away.

    To some extent Microsoft are not fully to blaim for the massive number of
    failures in their software, sure there are bugs, sure there are holes, but
    until the lame admins out there get their act together, keep up with patches,
    watch and maintain their systems, IIS and other Microsoft products will be
    continuosly hailed as buggy and bad.

    Companies have to learn, you don't put an IIS machine out on the web and
    treat it like Microsoft Word.... launch and leave. You look after it, or
    your failing the Microsoft Community.

    i sincerely hope people do ignore the Gartner report, as I don't want all
    those slack admins ruining the Linux community as well, which unfortunately,
    with the constant rate of development in the Linux community making it
    easier and easier to use, they will.

    Its not so much the software, its the people that run it, so let's make sure
    there are less of the less educated people..... erm..... somehow ;-)

    On Thursday 04 October 2001 6:15 pm, Damien Adams wrote:
    > The Gartner study has already been picked apart and disregarded. Of course
    > you would advocate a Linux or Unix product, you work for "Mission Critical
    > Linux", seems to me like you are pushing your own agenda. I have heard
    > people argue that Linux solutions dont turn things on by default,
    > etc.,etc... Here is the thing to keep in mind. Windows offers ease of
    > use, IIS offers ease of use. If people cant figure out how to turn off
    > default services and keep their systems patched, in my opinion they are not
    > going to be able to run a Linux box. Linux and Apache have not proven to
    > be totally secure and efficient and they have exploits and vulnerabilites
    > also. They require patches and updates be applied just like Windows. Each
    > one has its own pros and cons and its up to each individual to figure out
    > what solution will work best for their needs. Just my two cents on it.