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From: Darren W. MacDonald (darrydoosympatico.ca)
Date: Thu Oct 04 2001 - 19:18:29 CDT

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    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Byron Kennedy" <byronmarkettools.com>
    To: "'Wim Remes'" <wim.remesskynet.be>; "Arendt, Jordan ED0"
    <Jordan.Arendtsasked.gov.sk.ca>; "'Paul L Schmehl'" <paulsutdallas.edu>;
    "Byron Kennedy" <byronmarkettools.com>; <focus-mssecurityfocus.com>
    Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 7:01 PM
    Subject: RE: Microsoft Announces Strategic Technology Protection Program

    <snip>

    > innovation and improvement. So, back to your theory, do you also purpose
    > that we all use Antivirus packages and scanning engines that we integrate
    > ourselves via perl and c++ and never use the auto update features because
    > it's more secure to download the digitally signed/encrypted definitions
    > manually and distribute them ourselves - with our own tools? :)

    Actually, that's EXACTLY what I do, with every company I've worked for!
    (There's an awful lot of code floating around -- and by code I mean batch
    files and WinBatch, as I'm not a programmer -- at former workplaces that's
    still in use, years later.) (They call me "Batch Man")

    In our environment, NAV Enterprise does a terrible job of distributing new
    DAT files. So we use SMS. And we don't use LiveUpdate, because we test every
    new DAT in our lab, and then promote the same version to production once it
    passes.

    We (the industry "we", I suspect) do it ourselves, because as Type A
    personalities, we need that control -- make the apps work the way we want,
    instead of changing how we work to conform to the apps.

    I create lots of custom .CMD file (and even some VBScript and Perlscript,
    just to try to get current) tools to help us do our jobs better, and I
    mentor my co-workers so they can create their own. Our credo: "If we have to
    do it more than once... automate!"

    TTYL
    Darren