Agree to the Browser War... They did not stay competitve on the market
wants. The one issue with the Incorporated Firewall is the Selling of false
security. People will like the Idea of a all in one OS, and firewall
solution for there home network. And they can still run the MS products that
they have grown to love.

General users are already getting the message that they need a firewall at
home to protect them from the bad folks out there. The part is that they
will likely go with the name that they trust. They want to run MS products,
they need the MS OS, so they will have the MS firewall.
As far as competing... Look at the web servers.. IIS not secure lots of
money
Apache little money and more secure... Guess who seems to win.

And trust me I am not endorsing MS products.. But until say an OS like Linux
gets more Big companies to support it.. MS is the way people will go...
Unless they have a good understanding of what is going on at home... trust
me I would never in my right mind run just a MS firewall.. I would never
have a IIS server running in my home either... But I can not see my folks
out there configuring there own Linux firewall.. Not when I have to install
there printer for them.

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul L Schmehl [mailto:paulsutdallas.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2001 2:01 PM
To: Dave Vehrs; 'Turner, Keith'; focus-mssecurityfocus.com
Subject: RE: Microsoft Can't Win.

Netscape lost the browser wars because their browser sucks, not because
Microsoft beat them. They *still* aren't compliant with HTML 3.2, for
God's sake (never mind the positioning problems et al in CSS), and they
can't even run their *own* Javascripts. If they fixed the problems with
their browser, people would use it.

Besides, personal firewalls are *already* free. How is MS going to
"compete" with that?

--On Friday, October 05, 2001 2:20 PM -0600 Dave Vehrs
<davevspiremedia.com> wrote:
>
> As for the abuse of monopoly powers, how many people do you know
that
> still use Netscape? I remember when it was the dominate browser (if not
> only), but ever since Microsoft started offering Internet Explorer for
> free, Netscape has had to work harder and harder to maintain a dwindling
> market share.

Paul L. Schmehl, paulsutdallas.edu
http://www.utdallas.edu/~pauls/
Supervisor, Support Services
The University of Texas at Dallas
AVIEN Founding Member

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