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From: Droby10 (droby10onebox.com)
Date: Fri May 03 2002 - 15:09:29 CDT

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    i think there is a misunderstanding of the difference between a compromised
    host and a "rooted" box (and i could very well be the one who doesn't
    understand). but, i have always understood a rooted box to be a compromised
    host that displays no symptoms or characteristics of that situation.

    ie. even replacing /bin/login with a simple backdoor version is detectable
    with file signatures, user, processor, and network statistics. to me
    a unix rootkit would need to effect the way that those variables/lists
    are gathered/collected [or in this case omitted] at a kernel/system level
    - not an application, user, or even service level. with that definition,
    ntrootkit is the only (or the closest to) true rootkit for windows platforms
    that has been publicly released (AFAIK).

    sure there are plenty of ways to compromise a host, and many are very
    savy at keeping as silent as possible, but they still create/leave traces
    that can easily be exposed. even with the "as-is" ntrootkit, the simple
    detectionary measure is to attempt to start/stop the service. but it
    does very well to hide itself and "_root" others from queries into the
    filesystem, registry, and process list/tree, scm, etc.

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