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RE: MS ISA activeX Filtering

From: Jim Harrison (ISA) (jmharrmicrosoft.com)
Date: Tue Oct 05 2004 - 16:01:30 CDT


ISA can't control client interpretation of file types without help.
The anti-virus folks may have something like that in their products for
ISA.
They're listed here:
http://www.microsoft.com/isaserver/partners/contentsecurity.asp

Jim Harrison
MCP(NT4/2K), A+, Network+
Security Business Unit (ISA SE)

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-----Original Message-----
From: Casey DeBerry [mailto:cdeberrycobizinc.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 9:50 AM
To: Andrew van der Stock
Cc: focus-mssecurityfocus.com
Subject: RE: MS ISA activeX Filtering

This is more along the lines of what I was looking for- I don't want to
completely block activeX, just want to filter a specific activeX
application based on what you stated below; headers.

Do I need some kind of AV add-on or otherwise? Or will ISA 2000 do this
out of the box?

-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew van der Stock [mailto:avanderstockb-sec.com]
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 11:58 PM
To: 'Paul Kurczaba'; Casey DeBerry
Cc: focus-mssecurityfocus.com
Subject: RE: MS ISA activeX Filtering

NT/2k*/XP can run any file extension if it knows about them. For
example, Quicktime and NT both do this:

* Quicktime uses .qt
* NT uses .cpl and .scr amongst others

--

C:\WINDOWS\system32>dumpbin access.cpl
Microsoft (R) COFF/PE Dumper Version 7.10.3077
Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

Dump of file access.cpl

File Type: DLL

--

Blocking by extension is simply not going to cut the mustard if someone
works out how to replace content in a precise location.

In addition, some programs will launch *anything* if it's a registered
file type for them.

What's needed in addition to extension blocking is a PE header
inspector, and to block PE headers, not just file extensions. Block
extensions by all means, but it's not the complete solution. Lastly, a
blacklist is not as good as a whitelist (ie only allow ...)

Thanks,
Andrew

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Kurczaba [mailto:paulmyipis.com]
Sent: Tuesday, 5 October 2004 4:52 AM
To: Casey DeBerry; focus-mssecurityfocus.com
Subject: Re: MS ISA activeX Filtering

I would filter the following file extensions: cab, ocx, and dll. These
are
used by ActiveX.

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