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From: Jeff Deitz (JeffDVSP.COM)
Date: Mon Jan 15 2001 - 17:17:41 CST

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    Sorry, there is no contract or disclaimer information on this website, only
    a form to sign up for their service.

    In fact, there is no contact or company information on this website, is this
    a hacker website?
    I would never trust any company that does not have full company information
    and privacy statements on its website. They state that you fill out the
    form, they send you something to sign and you fax it back to them. Are they
    the CIA in disguise that they will not give you any information other then a
    email address and fax number?

    I think this site would be a perfect example of what NOT to look for in a
    company doing penetration testing.

    Jeff Deitz
    Senior Systems Architect

    -----Original Message-----
    From: John Martin [mailto:john.martinMARCONI.COM]
    Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2001 10:27 AM
    To: PEN-TESTSECURITYFOCUS.COM
    Subject: Re: [PEN-TEST] Contract/disclaimer for penetration testers

    Hi

    Try www.maxvision.net/

    This question also raises issues about the forthcoming RIP law in UK, which
    comes into force in June 2001. Does this law affect existing
    authorisation/liability contracts, when conducting Penetration testing,
    particularly externally via an ISP? If so, how can we protect ourselves?
    What needs to be changed in existing contracts?

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Allan Pratt [mailto:allan_prattHOTMAIL.COM]
    Sent: 12 January 2001 18:41
    To: PEN-TESTSECURITYFOCUS.COM
    Subject: [PEN-TEST] Contract/disclaimer for penetration testers

    Hi,

    I recollect seeing a few months ago on this list a URL that was posted for a
    contract that a penetration testing company had their clients sign.

    The contract stated what the penetration testers would do and what other
    issues that come up in the process of performing a penetration test. This
    included a liability waiver.

    I can't find that posting. Does anyone recollect this URL or a similar
    document I can download?

    Thanks,

    Allan

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