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From: Max Vision (visionWHITEHATS.COM)
Date: Mon Jan 15 2001 - 19:20:34 CST

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    On Mon, 15 Jan 2001, Jeff Deitz wrote:
    > Sorry, there is no contract or disclaimer information on this website, only
    > a form to sign up for their service.
    > In fact, there is no contact or company information on this website, is this
    > a hacker website?

    No this is not a "hacker website". If you have a look at whitehats.com
    (prominently referenced at maxvision.net) I think you'll better understand
    where I stand in the security industry.

    > I would never trust any company that does not have full company information
    > and privacy statements on its website. They state that you fill out the
    > form, they send you something to sign and you fax it back to them. Are they
    > the CIA in disguise that they will not give you any information other then a
    > email address and fax number?
    > I think this site would be a perfect example of what NOT to look for in a
    > company doing penetration testing.
    >

    I have a 100% penetration rate and the vast majority of my business is
    word of mouth. Your attempt to slander my company is unreasonable and
    unfounded.

    The free Visibility Analysis that I offer on the website is actually a
    perfect example of *what should be happening more* in a security industry
    that routinely gouges it's customers with exorbitant and arbitrary fees
    and rarely if ever gives "something for nothing". Although the Visibility
    Analysis report includes a quotation for penetration testing services
    (which is ultimately what someone is looking for when they come to my
    business website), the report is valuable by itself, and has been quite
    welcome by the hundreds of companies that have requested it.

    > Jeff Deitz
    > Senior Systems Architect
    >

    Max Vision
    http://whitehats.com/
    http://maxvision.net/