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From: Eduardo_CamposCREDOMATIC.COM
Date: Tue Feb 06 2001 - 14:57:01 CST

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    Right, since VLANs are defined on hardware, how can you convince the switch
    to give you a trunk port ?
    That would be the only way to receive and send traffic to other VLANS.
    VLANS were not designed with security on mind. Broadcast domain division in
    fact is the best advantage you achieve with VLANs. Although, making VLANs
    and creating access-lists on the router which enable communications between
    them (if you permit it) can give you a very good way to have more strict
    security.

                                                                                                                                  
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    Hi.

    > Actually, sniffing isnt' that heard either. There are
    > several ways to do
    > it such as making the switch you are a trunk port and you need all the
    > traffic. In order words, don't put a switch and VLANs in
    > place and expect
    > that to be your security because they can be defeated.

    As for switching, I'm fully aware that it's not a security mechanism that
    cannot be defeated easily. However that VLANs have no security impact is
    news to me. Since VLANS are defined on physical switch port basis, how
    could
    they be used to receive or send traffic on other VLANs?

    /Johan

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    Johan Lindqvist
    Security Specialist
    

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