From: Erin Carroll (amoebaamoebazone.com)
Date: Mon Jun 04 2007 - 23:26:06 CDT

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List members,

Okay, once the the door or car analogies start to fly it's time to move on
to another subject. Until the legalities are more firmly established or case
law and precedents become clearer, the grey areas between technical
interpretations and the legal interpretations on this can be debated until
the sun supernovas.

Unless there is a pen-test specific post on this matter please consider this
discussion closed. Further posts on the subject will be rejected.

--
Erin Carroll
Moderator
SecurityFocus pen-test list
"Do Not Taunt Happy-Fun Ball"

> -----Original Message-----
> From: listbouncesecurityfocus.com
> [mailto:listbouncesecurityfocus.com] On Behalf Of
> cwrightbdosyd.com.au
> Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 7:42 PM
> To: pen-testsecurityfocus.com
> Subject: Re: Re: Interesting Ruling Regarding WiFi access
>
> Hello,
> No, your understanding of property rights is flawed.
>
> If I have no door, you are still breaking the law by entering
> my property without permission. There does not need to be
> anything that states "stay out". By default, you have no
> right to use the property of another. You need to have permission.
>
> So the issue is is there a message stating "come in".
>
> Without that express permission you have commited an illegal
> act. Whether it is also criominal is another matter.
>
> Regards,
> Craig
>
> >Your analogy is flawed. A wireless network that does not use any
> methods of controlling access. It does not have a door. It
> does not have a fence. It does not have anything that says
> "Stay Out". That's the problem, and that's why you should not
> go to jail.
>
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