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Re: Gartner's Security 3.0

From: Guilaume Vissian (somebodyisheregmail.com)
Date: Fri Oct 19 2007 - 14:55:19 CDT


Hi,

To follow with a french example... You were talking about network
security, but there is more than that, in my mind the IT security
audit has also to include environmental things such as : Management,
Orgnisation, and people don't forget the mitnick example, this guy
use social engineering a lot ! So the french government find an
answer to that establishing the ISO 27001, but in my mind Social
Engineering is not really yet, audited.
Otherwise, discussing about economy there is on the market one or two
products which will audit a network and following the information
given, will show you the amount of money that you may loose if a part
of the network or a single server fall... A such product may answer
your problem. I can't remember the name of the product but I remember
that they are expensive, now it is also your choice.... if you want
to use less money for your cofee and more for your security or
not... ;0)
Finally it is true, that presently the full audit (I mean Economy +
Management + Network + .... ) are not purposed by companies as one
audit but as multiple types of audit....

Best regards

Le 18 oct. 07 à 12:10, pkc_mls a écrit :

> M.B.Jr. a écrit :
>> Pentesters,
>>
>> Gartner's recently -- during its 2007 IT Security Summit -- released
>> it's new corporative Information Security approach, named "Security
>> 3.0".
>> Basically, it suggests that 8 percent (and no less whatsoever than
>> 5%)
>> of the companies' IT budget be focused on security.
>>
>> It is something no doubt but personally I think it could be more,
>> say 10%.
>>
> Hi,
>
> just a french example (please take some time before bashing).
>
> there was a huge fire in a bank in paris in the 90s, and after this
> event all banks started to think about disaster recovery.
>
> for the security, as some other already answered, it depends on how
> sensitive is the IT or the global management to security.
>
> if some friend already has an issue with security, or if they had a
> phishing problem with lot of money involved, I think they'll
> think more about security.
>
> for some companies, it's also part of their job to have the network
> secured so they can sell their products (pills or medicine
> for example).
>
> then, you can even invest 20, 30 % to security, if the goal is only
> to put the latest firewall and never watch the log, perhaps
> the investment doesn't matter.
>
> IMHO the hardest part is to maintain a good level of security
> (everyone knows that as soon as you are connected to a network,
> you cannot be a 100% secure) as your network is always modified.
>> The thing is:
>> how are you, as a pentester, feeling such, concerning your incomes?
>>
>>
>> Yours faithfully,
>>
>
>
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