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From: Voodoo Child (auto125268
HUSHMAIL.COM)Date: Sun Apr 08 2001 - 15:44:28 CDT
Agreed. I know one company that is considering prxying cookies for a third-
party that will get around it. They basically create a server to server
connection, and when a particular cookie is set for a service by the first
party, it gets echoes back to the third-party.
At Sun, 8 Apr 2001 11:42:23 -0700, Ric Steinberger <ricst
RUSTYMAIL.COM>
wrote:
>
>Richard,
>
> I have a bad feeling about this. My concern is that Microsoft doesn't
>want to
>arouse the wrath of powerful advertising companies like Double Click,
> so some
>way will be "found" for these companies to meet minimum standards.
>In other
>words, minimum standards could really be pretty darned minimum, and
>most third
>party cookies would continue to be deposited and read back.
>
>ric
>
>Ric Steinberger
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Web and Mobile Code Security [mailto:WWW-MOBILE-CODE
SECURITYFOCUS.COM]On
>Behalf Of Richard M. Smith
>Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2001 9:08 AM
>To: WWW-MOBILE-CODE-X-SECURITYFOCUS.COM
mail-x-change.com
>Subject: Re: Internet Explorer 6
>
>Hi Ric,
>
>In order for a Web site to set a third-party cookie
>on a computer running IE6, the site must have P3P privacy
>policy which meets certain minimum standards. What these
>standards are I don't quite know.
>
>Richard
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Web and Mobile Code Security
>[mailto:WWW-MOBILE-CODE
SECURITYFOCUS.COM]On Behalf Of Ric Steinberger
>Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2001 11:31 AM
>To: WWW-MOBILE-CODE
SECURITYFOCUS.COM
>Subject: Re: Internet Explorer 6
>
>
>It's interesting that IE 6, under the privacy setting, at the medium
>level,
>says
>"Do not allow unsatisfactory third parties" to install cookies. It's
>not
>clear
>what MS means by unsatisfactory, but this could be crucial. What if
>MS
>takes a
>very narrow definition of unsatisfactory, meaning that it defines
>unsatisfactory
>as related to porn or violence, whereas Double Click, being merely an
>advertiser, is quite "satisfactory." I don't know that this is true.
> But
>the
>wording in the IE config panel is certainly ambiguous.
>
>Ric Steinberger
>Security Portal - the Focal Point for Security on the Net
>http://www.securityportal.com/
>650.856.2067
>Mobile: 650.302.4322
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Web and Mobile Code Security
>[mailto:WWW-MOBILE-CODE
SECURITYFOCUS.COM]On
>Behalf Of Voodoo Child
>Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2001 10:00 PM
>To: WWW-MOBILE-CODE-X-SECURITYFOCUS.COM
mail-x-change.com
>Subject: Re: Internet Explorer 6
>
>Heres then gen on third-party cookies .....for those interested.
>
>http://msdn.microsoft.com/workshop/security/privacy/ie6privacyfeature.asp#IE
>6Pri
>vacyFeature_topic3
>
>At Sat, 7 Apr 2001 19:25:55 -0700, Ric Steinberger <ricst
RUSTYMAIL.COM>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>Some "smart" marketing companies have discovered how to create and
>read
>>cookies
>>using Javascript. That's harder to block/prevent than the conventional
>>HTTP
>>cookie creation method.
>>
>>Ric Steinberger
>>Security Portal - the Focal Point for Security on the Net
>>http://www.securityportal.com/
>>650.856.2067
>>Mobile: 650.302.4322
>>Pager: 360.307.5045
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Web and Mobile Code Security
>[mailto:WWW-MOBILE-CODE
SECURITYFOCUS.COM]On
>>Behalf Of Voodoo Child
>>Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2001 8:07 PM
>>To: WWW-MOBILE-CODE-X-SECURITYFOCUS.COM
mail-x-change.com
>>Subject: Internet Explorer 6
>>
>>Anyoine lese been playing with Internet Explorer 6 ? Seems they have
>>done
>>P3P the standard being developed by the www.W3c.com/p3p ...one cool
>>thing
>>is stopping third party cookies ....looks like double clicks business
>>just
>>died ;-)
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