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From: Sverre H. Huseby (shhthathost.com)
Date: Wed Sep 26 2001 - 15:05:50 CDT

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    Just a few comments on the categories:

    First: I've created a web application security course that's been
    given to a couple of hundred web developers in Norway this far. In
    the course, the major categorization level is "attacks against the
    server" and "attacks against the user". The first category contains
    methods by which remote users may somehow abuse the server (typically
    input stuff). The second category is about how to use a web
    application to get to (or abuse) its users (typically output stuff).
    Don't know if my categorization makes any more sense than what has
    already been proposed, but I wanted to mention it.

    Second: Dennis does a good job of keeping his category list updated.
    It seems now that the list starts to contain what I normally call
    "infrastructure security stuff", of which many books are already
    available (correct me if I misunderstand your terms). DNS spoofing,
    packet sniffing, debug settings, sample hacking, finger printing and
    more. Developers should know about it, but there are many sources of
    this information. Short appenices may be a good thing, but I'm not
    sure it would be correct to give it the same focus as, say, input
    validation in this context.

    Third: I would like to suggest a couple of additions. The first one
    is simple, tell the developers that clear text passwords are bad. The
    second is more complex: I can't find Client Side Trojans [*] on the
    list. I still think this is one of the most potent security problems
    on the web. (No, "Application Trojans" doesn't sound like the same
    thing.)

    [*] http://www.zope.org/Members/jim/ZopeSecurity/ClientSideTrojan

    Sverre.

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