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From: James Fleming (jamesfleming94588yahoo.com)
Date: Wed Jan 16 2002 - 11:21:07 CST

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    Agree that the developer should def not be the person
    testing the security. Thats a really bad idea !

    --- derek <djyo.net> wrote:
    >
    > With this, I cannot agree more!
    >
    > the programmer should not be the one testing the
    > software and having the
    > final approval. There must be an "independant"
    > entity/dept/person with the
    > responsibly for annoying the developer about every
    > bug they find.
    >
    > for instance:
    >
    > as a programmer I know exactly how my code should
    > work and I often make
    > allowances while testing to get past one block of
    > code to get to and test
    > another block....thoroughness is an issue.
    >
    > as a programmer I often have a bias as to how I
    > think the app should be
    > presented to the user...the real users may not agree
    > (they often don't).
    >
    > Later,
    > dj
    >
    >
    >
    > Nelson Sampaio Araujo Junior wrote:
    >
    > > You should have different teams for white box
    > testing e black box testing.
    > >
    > > When you know something, unconsciously you use it.
    > If you do black box after
    > > the white box, you'll *not* get a black box. It
    > will be a gray-box, because
    > > you'll tendend to think about what you have seen
    > before.
    > >
    > > To clarify this try: black, white and black again.
    > You'll see you will try
    > > things in the first black you'll not be able to
    > figure if you know something
    > > about the system.
    > >
    > > []s
    > > Nelson Junior
    > > nelsonlunenetworks.com.br
    > > nelsonLUNE.com.br
    > >
    > >
    >
    >

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