From: David Robert (drobertdjinnsoft.com)
Date: Thu Mar 03 2005 - 19:35:18 CST

• Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ]

Yes, I have done it this way before. You don't even need to put them in the
WEB-INF directory. You can have the servlet read the file itself and stream
it back. Just configure the JSP container to send requests for the resource
to the servlet.

You do need some mechanism for the servlet to determine a valid request from
an invalid one - e.g. session information.

It's nice because it does not impact the existing app.

-David

-----Original Message-----
From: Dwayne Ghant [mailto:dghanttemple.edu]
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 4:28 PM
To: Kevin Conaway
Cc: webappsecsecurityfocus.com
Subject: Re: Preventing direct URL access in a J2EE environment

I believe you can drop the whole application into the WEB-INF directory
and just point to it using a servlet or index.jsp from you local web
content directory.

What Container are you using.?? Tomcat , BEA , WebLogic, Oracle
(Tomcat), WebSphere ect.
Kevin Conaway wrote:

>Blocking the referrer does nothing for me in this context.
>
>A.) You should NEVER rely on input from the user do to security
validations
>
>and
>
>B.) I cant use the referrer tag since it will show up as coming from
>my site when users are browsing legitimately.
>
>I just want to enforce that users actually click on a link to go to a
>certain page, not type in the URL manually.
>
>Thanks
>
>Kevin
>
>
>On Tue, 1 Mar 2005 21:22:52 -0800, Saqib Ali <docbook.xmlgmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>well for most applications that require anti-leeching, just deny any
>>HTTP request which has the HTTP_REFERER set to blank.
>>
>>In Peace,
>>Saqib Ali
>>http://validate.sf.net
>>
>>On Tue, 1 Mar 2005 14:34:30 -0800 (PST), RSnake <rsnakeshocking.com>
wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Referers are also not availible in some security settings.
>>> Zonelabs Zone Alarm Pro, and both Norton Internet Security and
>>> Norton Personal Firewall all drop the referring URL. Forget
>>> spoofable, sometimes it's just not there at all.
>>>
>>> See this for details from Symantec:
>>>
>>>
http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/nip.nsf/46f26a2d6dafb0a788256bc7005c3fa
3/b9b47ad7eddd343b88256c6b006a85a8?OpenDocument&src=bar_sch_nam
>>>
>>> There are a number of tricks you can use to get more information
>>> from the user's machine, but Referring URL isn't reliable. Not
>>> to mention it can also be non-existant via meta refreshing.
>>>
>>>On Tue, 1 Mar 2005, Saqib Ali wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>It is a commonly used technique called anti-leeching or anti-leaching .
>>>>
>>>>Search for "anti leeching php" or "anti leeching jsp" on Google. You
>>>>will find many resources.
>>>>
>>>>You can control the path that a user takes by checking for the
>>>>HTTP_REFERER . But this is not a fail-proof technique, because the
>>>>HTTP_REFERER can alwasy be spoofed.
>>>>
>>>>In Peace,
>>>>Saqib Ali
>>>>http://validate.sf.net
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On Tue, 1 Mar 2005 10:19:37 -0500, Kevin Conaway
>>>><kevin.conawaygmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>For our application, we would like to prevent users from requesting
>>>>>application resources directly. E.g. browsing to
>>>>>http://localhost/app/method.do?id=5&type=3 instead of actually
>>>>>clicking on a link that the application provides.
>>>>>
>>>>>We would like to do this without a major impact on our code. I was
>>>>>thinking of using the following scenario:
>>>>>
>>>>>- Currently we have tag libraries that help build all our URLS. These
>>>>>tag libraries would be modified to include a strong cryptographic
>>>>>token that is unique to each URL/User combination. - The token/URL
>>>>>combination would be stored in the application context for a
>>>>>pre-determined amount of time.
>>>>>
>>>>>- Next, we would use a Servlet filter to intercept the URL. First,
>>>>>deny URLS requested without tokens. If a token is passed, verify that
>>>>>matches the token stored in the application context for the requested
>>>>>URL.
>>>>>
>>>>>For the token, I was considering using SecureRandom to generate a
>>>>>random number and compute a hash of the random number and the URI
>>>>>being requested. This would be stored along with with URI and the
>>>>>user Id.
>>>>>
>>>>>Could anyone point out any pitfalls I need to be aware of, or if I'm
>>>>>going about things the wrong way?
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>>Kevin
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>In Peace,
>>>>Saqib Ali
>>>>http://tools.tldp.org/search.php <--- Search for Linux HOWTOs
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>-R XSS Cheatsheet: http://www.shocking.com/~rsnake/xss.html
>>>
>>>The information in this email is confidential and may be legally
>>>privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to
>>>this email by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not the
>>>intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any
>>>action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it is
>>>expressly prohibited and may be unlawful.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>--
>>In Peace,
>>Saqib Ali
>>http://tools.tldp.org/search.php <--- Search for Linux HOWTOs
>>
>>
>>

--

Dwayne A. Ghant
Application Developer
Temple University
215.204.5555
dghanttemple.edu

• Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ]