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From: Bill Gercken (bgerckenprovidentanalysis.com)
Date: Thu Mar 15 2001 - 05:05:05 CST

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    Does that imply that we should perhaps remove it from the perimeter sensor
    and only use it on the internal sensors?
    Also, is there a way to allow normal DNS traffic to be ignored by this rule?

    -bill

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    William C. Gercken
    Provident Analysis Corporation
    bgerckenprovidentanalysis.com
    

    -----Original Message----- From: snort-users-adminlists.sourceforge.net [mailto:snort-users-adminlists.sourceforge.net]On Behalf Of Erik Fichtner Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 8:34 PM To: Ian Campbell Cc: 'snort-userslists.sourceforge.net' Subject: Re: [Snort-users] [**] MISC source port 53 to <1023 [**]

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    On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 04:30:21PM -0800, Ian Campbell wrote: > Can anyone give me more info on this particular rule or the details of any > exploits it's supposed to catch?

    If you had a stateless firewall, say something like a bunch of cisco router access-lists, you would probably allow queries from some machines to port 53, because you would want to make DNS requests.. And since your packet filter would be stateless, you would want to allow replies from the nameservers, which is using source port 53.

    Right?

    Okay.. so this sort of thing was conceived back in the day when you could be fairly certain that the Average Guy couldn't come along and craft a custom packet. But now, Average Guy can create all manner of crap on the wire, and making his packets claim to be from port 53 might just get them through your wimpy stateless firewall, if you happen to have that.

    And thus, why there's a rule to catch that kind of thing... Except that it falses a lot.

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