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From: -No Strezzz Cazzz (Butterphly6CAZZZ.DEMON.NL)
Date: Sat Feb 24 2001 - 13:18:47 CST

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    >On Thu, 22 Feb 2001, -No Strezzz Cazzz wrote:
    >
    >> >On Wed, 21 Feb 2001 21:51:12 UTC, rpc said:
    >> >
    >> >
    >> >What you define below does not constitute a 'remote attack'. ping is
    >> >still executing locally. This is completely unrelated. I could just as
    >> >easily DoS the machine by creating 1e16 instances of minesweeper with
    >> >remote command execution.
    >>
    >> I thought that when a bug could get triggered from a remote location the
    bug
    >> itself is considered a remote-bug. In this case its a remote aswell as a
    >> local bug. I want a p0ny...
    >
    >You're completely missing rpc's point. You didn't win a pony, this is not a
    >bug. The -unicode- exploit is a bug, but being able to ping flood yourself
    >is certainly not. If this were the case then 'ping -f 127.0.0.1' would be a
    >bug under *Nix.

    Difference is that ping -f on *Nix or ping -t on Windows won't make your CPU
    go wild. When I use ping -t without the "-i 0" option my CPU
    Usage is about 2%-3%. But if I ping -t with -i 0 my CPU Usage will be 100%.
    Don't tell me this is normal behaviour for a processor. Also if it was true
    what you said then why can't you put the -i option on 0 on Win 9x, ME, NT5?

    >The 'ping -i' thingie you found is nothing more than a plain-jane,
    >run-of-the-mill PING FLOOD. It's NORMAL. It's SUPPOSED to work this way. If
    >you want to throw packets at your own machine as fast as it possibly can,
    >then knock yourself and your machine out.

    If it was normal it wouldn't generate the "Bad option specified" message.
    Also the -i is the Time To Live option. When you put that on 0 it doesn't
    "live", it never lived, its dead. It also works if you put the -i option on
    a letter instead of 0. But if you try any different number (256+) you'll get
    the "Bad value for option -i" error. But you won't get flooded with it, you
    only receive it once.

    >'ping -t 127.0.0.1 -i 0' is NOT a bug. It's called "Typical lUser not
    >bothering to RTFM".

    I was too thrilled. Oh well, maybe I get a p0ny next Christmas.

    -No Strezzz Cazzz, Powered By UN0X