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From: Robert Flicker (robert_flickerhotmail.com)
Date: Sat Jan 26 2002 - 03:55:37 CST

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    Hi charles:

    Have you tested the sourcecode that comes with the paper:

    http://www.ngsec.com/downloads/misc/NIDSfindshellcode.tgz

    As far as i know is the first public code that does this stuff.
    It may be not hot-news but i think it worth the download, and is a better
    solution for current IDS than your exoteric thoughts with Neuronal Networks
    and distributed signature checking... INMHO uimplementable in current IDS
    technologies.

    Quoting from www.snort.org:

    "Paper: Polymorphicisms be gone
    ...
    His ideas revolve around counting multiple NOP type operations in a row and
    alerting when a threshold is reached. The idea has been kicked around for a
    while, but this is the first one that I have seen in actual implementation.
    ...
    "

    Current snort branch and its technique to detect shellcode is very easy
    foolable ;P... NIDSfindshellcode is also foolable but in a harder way.

    Robert Flicker

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